• sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      6 hours ago

      You got the life experience of a 12 yo if you think being reasonable to a diehard conservative will have any effect on them other than making them internally chuckle that you’re trying to take them seriously, in good faith.

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        5 hours ago

        And you think posturing as a steamroller is going to be any better? People will hand wave you away if all you’ve got is aggression. You’re full of hot air and all that does is delegitimize you in a debate.

        You’re not entirely wrong, you’re just an asshole about it. Even if I agreed with you fully I’d still want to avoid you.

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          14 minutes ago

          You fundamentally don’t get it.

          Being an asshole about it is the tactic that works.

          You’d want to avoid me just like you’d want to avoid the assholes this would work on, because you’re not like them, and you don’t like them.

          You can’t reason with everyone. That tactic, reasoning, doesn’t work on or with everyone. Some people just do need to be rhetorically slapped around, all pathos and ethos, because logos has no real effect on them.

          People like you would hand wave away a brash boistrous blustering bloviation of bullshit.

          People like them, that’s the real language that speaks to them, the only thing that makes an impact on not their conscious thoughts, but their subconscious that gives rise to those conscious thoughts.

          Stop acting as if everyone else is like you.

          The whole point here is what tactic convinces people that are not like you and cannot be convinced by reason? That that tactic wouldn’t work on you is irrelevant. Get over yourself.