Better archive this one boys because I have a feeling this stuff will age like fine wine that Henry the VII had in his private reserve.

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        But it will be a total surprise for our politicians: Nobody could have seen this coming.

        And if somebody does see it coming: Putler wouldn’t be so stupid to do it.

        Guess what, he will be stupid enough. Then it’s time to write a strong worded letter I guess. I really hope european leaders will show a closed front and fight back with absolute determination.

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      One is a liar, the other is –although he is technically telling the same lie– just a brain-dead parrot.

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        Wouldn’t be so sure. Maybe Putin gave him some vague assurances without really committing to anything, and Trump provided the rest.

        Trump is very much capable of actively lying.

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      Well, one is a retarded fascist, while the other is just a fascist. So I guess it’s stupid lies, and lies.

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      In this case, I bet Putin, and Trump is just the useful idiot, like usual.

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    Trump: “Putin personally promised me that he wouldn’t attack NATO. And I believe him”

    Putin: busy attacking NATO through assassinations, covert sabotage, armed drones and cyberwarfare

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    Russia is already attaching NATO with hybrid warfare. Russia wants to destabilize Europe as european countries are helping Ukraine defence against Russia.

    Russia is not attaching Europe militarily, but attaching the European institutions to make Europe incapable to act, extend influence and defend itself. And China is helping as they have the same objective.

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    The known liar says a thing. Shit comes out both ends of that ass so who knows if it’s real or not…

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    Honestly, I thought Russia attacking NATO by 2030 was a little far fetched (a war against one smaller country is not going particularly well) but this legit raises my guess it’ll happen by some 10% or so?

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      Russians know that nobody wants WW3, and they don’t want it too, actually. But they’re willing to exploit Western cautiousness on that matter - that’s why possibility of “limited incursions” has been brought up quite a few times recently, where they’ll just start chipping pieces of their neighbours, small enough for Russian friends like US to prevent organised collective defense answers.