These are the prices I paid for the 24TB model from that same product line over the past two years:
2024-11-01: $359.99
2024-12-25: $449.99
2025-06-28: $279.99
2026-06-09: $569.99
2026-07-06: $599.99
I use ZFS, btw.
I’m glad I just built my server before this
If every consumer would simply boycott RAM, SSDs, HDDs, CPUs & GPUs… We’d still be in the same boat because companies are the ones buying all this shit. We are so fucked.
We are so fucked
Except for china! because with sufficient state resources and constant demand they can and will increase production eventually!
meanwhile the west will simply cut health and social services and then spend twice what they “save” on subsidies, tax breaks and unspecified payouts to “chip companies” with no specific requirements on them actually ever doing anything. Capitalist efficiency, baby!
B2B or not B2B, that is the question!
*the companies that consumers watch to get their ads from to buy goods from, or where do you think facebook/google money comes from?
Okay but they’re like 22-28Tb though
You got my hopes up for a second that i could sell my old ones for some weed money but I only have a 1Tb and 512gb
Some slightly bad news on that front, those are becoming the small enterprise drives. Even worse quickly having stock eaten up completely due to the Ai bubble
It’s okay i’ll never be able to afford a new SSD anyway even without price increases. I have to many other needs and wants
I got a 22tb drive a few years back for 200
Well look at you, queen of storage over there, while I have to play digital tetris moving things around to keep 7-8 games installed
I was meaning like, there has been a huge increase in prices, not trying to brag about my storage, sorry.
It’s fine lol i was just teasing you and expressing jealousy im not mad <3
You could make a good amount if they were NVME drives, arguably even SSDs too.
They’re old HDDs that make fun clicking sounds
Storage prices are going bonkers, a few days ago a friend asked me for a good NVMe for his PC and the prices here in Brasil easily tripled, a 1TB NVMe is costing around R$900-1100 reais which today is ~$174-213 dollars, this shit is extremely expensive right now here.
Huh, I didn’t think hard discs would go up much because they use, y’know, discs?
Hard drives are still the king of mass storage, so datacenters use them extensively
There’s limited global manufacturing capacity. AI companies have been buying up all they can get to store their datasets on. They’re not fast enough for the models to run off but they still need them to store the training data which is in the thousands of petabytes.
4TB WD Red is $300 which is fucking nuts. $700 for a +20TB drive is actually cheap.
Oh they’re used. Uh
Yeah, I looked up the 20TB drive new, it’s $1000.
Actually $700 for a 20+ TB drive is insane, even new. I use 24TB drives in my media server, and I was able to buy them for $480 this time last year. I’m crossing my fingers that I won’t have to buy more until the price goes back down.
ssd cost roughly the same as cheapo hdd of same low volume (1-2tb), it’s kinda funny
(probably signifies that problem is very weird, 9 plates hdd uses proportionally more reading heads and plates, so wtf is that price scaling (not actuators, not magnetic heads, not plates) i cannot tell, they use minuscule amount of ram, pcb is trivial itself, maybe the spinning drive? but that would be hilarious)
Recertified doesn’t actually mean used though, they are certified to meet the same quality standards as a brand new one.
I’ve seen different claims from different sources whether recertified is as good as new.
A seller wouldn’t be my first place for unbiased information.
Server parts deals has a pretty good reputation in the data hoarder community. I’ve got 3 of their drives and at work we have 6. Knock on wood, but we’ve had no problems with these drives over the past couple of years. One was DOA but they replaced it quickly. And better DOA than after it’s in the array for a month.
Also these are enterprise drives so outside of being DOA I have pretty high faith in their reliability.
manufacturer recertified afaik is two categories. one can basically be returned droves that were never used because some company bought them in bulk and never used it. or returns of drives that are broken new in box, and then fixed, then usually new white labeled. recertified usually consists of drives that were overall, rarely/never used outside of testing for functionality.
refurbished usually is lower standard and usually used drives backed with some warranty.
if its seller refurbished or recert, thats basically useless info imo. cant trust that over the oem.
I miss being able to get two 14TB drives for 550€ in a WD my book duo.
I bought 2x8GB of DDR4 four years ago: ~70$.
Just looked it up and the exact same package from the exact same vendor is at 153$.
Hey chat you think this might have something to do with anything?
(Clarifying questions indicated guided munitions use RAM that’s on a totally different supply chain but i find it funny to think of the u.s. having RAM shortages because they literally blew it all up for no reason)
I would expect “modern” guided munitions to use an absolutely tiny amount of ram by modern standards, because military hardware is often way behind consumer stuff in terms of raw computer specs. The US also makes like ten of those a year vs the absolute torrent of “ai” datacenters
Yeah the lying machine said basically it’s different ram, made by different facilities (i.e. not in Taiwan), and it’s also older and shittier for various reasons (extremely advanced chips having circuits/transistors or whatever that are so small being more vulnerable to EM interference so they use huge 20nm+ ones, and there being specific protocols on developing shit for defense technology just delaying new development)
I just think it’s funny to think there’s no RAM because the U.S. literally blows it up
Pretty much, and also there are really long planning cycles so what seemed cutting edge (at least by the standards of hardened, approved special hardware) at the start of the development is even more obsolete by the time anything actually gets built and delivered.
The equally reductive but actually true explanation is that there’s no RAM because the US literally glues it all to pieces of trash (specialized AI GPUs without display outputs)
Yes, you can put glue on pizza to help the cheese stick to it.
they’re also 28tb hdds
A coworker of mine bought 5 18tb recertified hard drives maybe a year and a half ago, and he spent about $500 on them, those same drives from the same vendor would host him somewhere in the ballpark of $6000 now.
64 gigs of ddr5 costs the same as a high end gaming gpu 🥴
RTX 5090s are going for $4000+ right now.
i just doubled my money!
those are for sickos though you can still get a very good gpu for 500 bucks for now
Yeah I’m just praying I won’t loose a second drive in my raid.
and I was hoping to setup a raid before prices exploded
It’s pretty awkward because you need to buy pretty big/expensive hard drives for it to actually make more sense to get 5 of them than just buying two bigger hard drives and mirroring them.
It’s easily the most expensive thing I own and it’s crumbling.
At least DDR4 ECC RAM is not too bad (relatively).
Very happy I bought my 20TB hard drive when it cost less than half of this
How much can I sell my old 250GB drives?
Assuming you mean hard drives not SSDs: almost nothing. If prices scaled perfectly linearly and all things were equal at these prices per TB it would be worth about $6.
But all things are not equal. Your drives are assuredly much older than these drives, probably more worn and the power cost of running it compared to capacity and use of limited SATA connectors would not be worth it for any kind of hot storage which lowers its value. The only way to sell them would be in a lot of at least 8, ideally more and you’d probably be lucky to get $3/drive if you can prove the SMART data on all of them is good and they work. Also if they’re not enterprise drives like these are knock that down a bit more.
Buying drives that small and old is little better than gambling and playing the odds so you have to buy an awful lot of them awfully cheap to deal with the fact you’re assuredly getting some bad eggs. You also have to figure in the hassle for the buyer of managing say backing up their 10TB data-set to 40 drives like this including plugging them in, unplugging, regular testing every year and storing them somewhere safe as well as dealing with failures and documenting what is on each drive. Most people conclude it isn’t worth the hassle though there’s enough desperate people out there now that some might bite.
250GB SSDs on the other hand assuming they’re not in a failing state are still worth some change as you can use them to install an OS on various homelab devices like a server, firewall, etc.
I will give you a stick of gum
