I don’t play minecraft, and I live under a rock so, I didn’t understand the meme. TIL Notch took the good will he received from the gaming community and summarily flushed it down the toilet.
When Notch was still a normal developer he was pretty progressive. I still remember the blog post where declared Minecraft has no distinct genders, all animals can breed with all of the same species, therefor everyone in Minecraft is gay. As a way to bash homophobes.
The chain of events as i witnessed it. And he also spoke of a few times is that money destroyed all his authentic friendships, his wife divorced him, everyone he met wanted him just for his money and he got completely isolated, also claimed to living for the most part on potato chips when on a podcast with moistcritical.
I also high suspicion from experience with other people he developed an alcohol problem which fuel his social media posts.
It’s no excuse but it is a recipe to make an otherwise decent person act in a monstrous way. Also a recipe to be easily influenceable by the wrong kids of al media.
Last i checked he took a long break from social media, and eventually came back as more sober person.
Can’t erase the fact he made some bad comments in the past. Many people seem to trow him on the same pile as Jk Rowling, who is actively and consistently doing harm. Such is far from fair.
I consider him in a similar category to Rowling not in effect, but in cause. I think they’re actually both prime examples of people who had been functional humans until becoming ultra wealthy, isolated, and internet brained.
Sounds like notch has changed back for the better, which is awesome.
The chain of events as i witnessed it. And he also spoke of a few times is that money destroyed all his authentic friendships, his wife divorced him, everyone he met wanted him just for his money and he got completely isolated, also claimed to living for the most part on potato chips when on a podcast with moistcritical.
I think I kind of identify with this perspective. I used to view agender as the obvious goal and anyone trying to emphasise binary gender as being kind of backwards. I just assumed that every cool person secretly just wanted to abolish gender and then we could just do whatever we wanted without having to label it one way or another.
And so for a split second I thought the terfs had a point. I even defended the perspective on reddit I think 🤦 anyway, you know the rest. If you read enough terf shit they tell in themselves and it’s not a feminist movement at all, but only about guarding access to their role as afabs (in the patriarchy).
I’m not going to waste to many more bytes on a transphobe, but if he’s been doing some work and coming to his senses then I’m happy for him. I can imagine how his particular life path fucked him up (solo Java developer to probably richest indie dev in the world).
Last i checked he took a long break from social media, and eventually came back as more sober person.
This is news to me, do you have any more info? While I agree that you can’t erase the bad, I would like to have another (rare) example of someone who turned themselves around.
And thanks for your post in general. I didn’t know about his opinions on gender, and they’re surprisingly thoughtful, especially for that time.
That genuinely hard to refer to, its mors of an absence of controversy. His main social media is still twitter and this might have been the second time this year he postsed at all.
What i do know,
He deleted his twitter account somewhere after 2021 and since 2024 appears to be back, working on a new game and expressed enjoying game development again (after presumably no longer enjoying it
Many of his pre-2022 post read to me as actual cringe and shit jokes. X appears to shuffle posts so its genuinely not hard still to find some really nasty ones. But everything since has been just a normal dude talking about developing game. Most opinionated expressing criticism against ai/vibe coding and how the epstein case is handled.
I dont know if he commented on the controversies since but the vibe i am getting is that fading in the background a little, being less famous and bombarded with internetfandom helped.
] They had a daughter together, but by mid-2012, he began to see little of her.[64] On 15 August 2012 he announced that he and his wife had filed for divorce.[2] The divorce was finalised later that year.[64][9]
On 14 December 2011 Persson’s father committed suicide with a handgun[9] after drinking heavily.[1] In an interview with The New Yorker, Persson said of his father:[9]
I know it’s a redundant statement but they became a billionaire AND became alt-right, especially in regards to their opinions towards the LGBTQ+ community. Microsoft actually scrubbed their name off of everything because of it.
It’s really sad to me because I used to really look up to them as a Minecraft obsessed teenager trying to learn to program
I think it’s a disease a bit like addiction. Do heroin once and you will likely feel pretty good. Do molly a couple times a year and it will probably be enjoyable. Do either all day every day and you will be fucking miserable, but still paranoid about losing your supply. Money is pretty similar. If you look at any of the ultra rich, they are visibly immiserated and paranoid.
I don’t play minecraft, and I live under a rock so, I didn’t understand the meme. TIL Notch took the good will he received from the gaming community and summarily flushed it down the toilet.
To play devils advocate,
When Notch was still a normal developer he was pretty progressive. I still remember the blog post where declared Minecraft has no distinct genders, all animals can breed with all of the same species, therefor everyone in Minecraft is gay. As a way to bash homophobes.
The chain of events as i witnessed it. And he also spoke of a few times is that money destroyed all his authentic friendships, his wife divorced him, everyone he met wanted him just for his money and he got completely isolated, also claimed to living for the most part on potato chips when on a podcast with moistcritical.
I also high suspicion from experience with other people he developed an alcohol problem which fuel his social media posts.
It’s no excuse but it is a recipe to make an otherwise decent person act in a monstrous way. Also a recipe to be easily influenceable by the wrong kids of al media.
Last i checked he took a long break from social media, and eventually came back as more sober person.
Can’t erase the fact he made some bad comments in the past. Many people seem to trow him on the same pile as Jk Rowling, who is actively and consistently doing harm. Such is far from fair.
Found the post
I consider him in a similar category to Rowling not in effect, but in cause. I think they’re actually both prime examples of people who had been functional humans until becoming ultra wealthy, isolated, and internet brained.
Sounds like notch has changed back for the better, which is awesome.
this happens a lot. I’ve got three circles of friends i trust and the defining characteristic is they stuck by either me or my wife when one of us was in crisis. fairweather friends are all too common when you’re successful, but it’s the ones who are there when you’re down and out that are [generally] trustworthy.
I think I kind of identify with this perspective. I used to view agender as the obvious goal and anyone trying to emphasise binary gender as being kind of backwards. I just assumed that every cool person secretly just wanted to abolish gender and then we could just do whatever we wanted without having to label it one way or another.
And so for a split second I thought the terfs had a point. I even defended the perspective on reddit I think 🤦 anyway, you know the rest. If you read enough terf shit they tell in themselves and it’s not a feminist movement at all, but only about guarding access to their role as afabs (in the patriarchy).
I’m not going to waste to many more bytes on a transphobe, but if he’s been doing some work and coming to his senses then I’m happy for him. I can imagine how his particular life path fucked him up (solo Java developer to probably richest indie dev in the world).
Notch is better than Rowling if only that he had the good sense to leave the public eye and separate himself from his work.
What could go wrong by taking an average dude and give them billions of dollars?
We should find out by giving me billions of dollars
I have yet to see a billionaire that is not severely mentally ill.
Might infer that no one should be a billionaire and that capitalism was a mistake.
Money has behaviour the same way that electrons have behaviour. Humanity is like the quantum field of money.
This is a fascinating take, I love it
Thank you for this!
This is news to me, do you have any more info? While I agree that you can’t erase the bad, I would like to have another (rare) example of someone who turned themselves around.
And thanks for your post in general. I didn’t know about his opinions on gender, and they’re surprisingly thoughtful, especially for that time.
That genuinely hard to refer to, its mors of an absence of controversy. His main social media is still twitter and this might have been the second time this year he postsed at all.
What i do know, He deleted his twitter account somewhere after 2021 and since 2024 appears to be back, working on a new game and expressed enjoying game development again (after presumably no longer enjoying it
Many of his pre-2022 post read to me as actual cringe and shit jokes. X appears to shuffle posts so its genuinely not hard still to find some really nasty ones. But everything since has been just a normal dude talking about developing game. Most opinionated expressing criticism against ai/vibe coding and how the epstein case is handled.
I dont know if he commented on the controversies since but the vibe i am getting is that fading in the background a little, being less famous and bombarded with internetfandom helped.
It just hit me you where asking for info nog just specific examples of proof of turning life around.
I found this article on loneliness from before the controversies many sources seem to point to facebook which I cant access though.
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/ive-never-felt-more-isolated-says-billionaire-mine/1100-6430171/
Also learned this from wikipedia.
] They had a daughter together, but by mid-2012, he began to see little of her.[64] On 15 August 2012 he announced that he and his wife had filed for divorce.[2] The divorce was finalised later that year.[64][9]
On 14 December 2011 Persson’s father committed suicide with a handgun[9] after drinking heavily.[1] In an interview with The New Yorker, Persson said of his father:[9]
According to Persson, his father suffered from depression, bipolar disorder, alcoholism, and medication abuse.
I think what i have is more of a theory that makes me see the human but what i sadly can’t find is wether or not he is sorry for what happened.
His wife divorced him shortly after he became a billionare. Money is a disease
That tends to happen after you cheat on your wife with a gold-digger
I know it’s a redundant statement but they became a billionaire AND became alt-right, especially in regards to their opinions towards the LGBTQ+ community. Microsoft actually scrubbed their name off of everything because of it.
It’s really sad to me because I used to really look up to them as a Minecraft obsessed teenager trying to learn to program
I remember being told that I’d become more conservative when I get out of school and start making money.
Turns out that’s just what shitty people do.
Why are you using they? Are they NB or just trolling them for their lgbt stance?
That was completely unintentional lol. I haven’t heard anything about him being NB
That’s what rich people want to make normal people think.
I think it’s a disease a bit like addiction. Do heroin once and you will likely feel pretty good. Do molly a couple times a year and it will probably be enjoyable. Do either all day every day and you will be fucking miserable, but still paranoid about losing your supply. Money is pretty similar. If you look at any of the ultra rich, they are visibly immiserated and paranoid.
Give me all your money then. Get rid of your addiction.