• wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz
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    16 hours ago

    Portuguese people HATE fascists. You don’t even have to be that old in Portugal to remember living under a fascist dictator.

    But I guess that doesn’t stop the lunatic fringe.

    Also, most Portuguese people look hispanic so I really wonder how an ICE-like force there would go…

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      Portuguese people do not look hispanic, they can be swarthy, like all mediteranian peoples in southern europe. They are not all that swarthy either in comparison. Maybe they had some hispanics emmigrate, it’s a minority.

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      14 hours ago

      Hi from Portugal. Chega (far right) is a major party in parliament right now (1/3) and arguably PSD (another 1/3) has gone far right lately especially on immigration. So we basically have two out of three parties who are far-right.

      One of them even talked in parliament about “diluting Portuguese blood” and “keeping Portugal for the Portuguese”, right before they voted to retroactively prevent all the foreigners from being allowed to apply for nationality, and prevent most of the southeast Asians from being eligible to renew their residency.

      They are also talking about trying to amend the constitution, not to put anything good in there.

      So uh, you sure about that?

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        14 hours ago

        Hi, thanks for the info. That’s uhh, concerning.

        I guess the far right is on the rise everywhere, but I would have thought it would get quashed when the world saw the US go ass up. Unfortunately, it seems I was wrong.

        When I was in Portugal not that long ago, everyone I talked to seemed to be fairly anti-fascist. But maybe there was some selection bias at play.

        I don’t know what else to tell you. It sucks watching one’s country slide into fascism. It sucks watching the world slide into fascism. I wish I had better answers than that…

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          9 hours ago

          Hey! Another input from a Portuguese (without any meaningful information, just my vibes and feelings): Regarding your selection bias, up until recently I think a lot of people were ashamed of being fascist (I only met one teacher that said “… but our past dictator made Portugal rich!!!”), so most people would pretend to align with anti fascism. Nowadays it has been normalized and people yell bs without hesitating :(

          I believe that we will have a fascist revolution before de-fascistizing the country. I just hope I can retire and live peacefully in a non-fascist Portugal :(

          (Sorry if my comment is confusing, I just woke up and this post made me sad :( I felt the need to comment)

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            Thanks for your input. I always appreciate a local’s perspective.

            That makes sense I think. It’s a lot like what happened in the US. The fascists were always there, but whether they were ashamed or not they knew better than to be out in the open with it. Now, they feel like they have permission, and its been masks-off.

            I hope everyone gets to retire and live peacefully in a non-fascist world. I don’t know how many generations it will be before that’s possible though. I used to believe that good will always prevail, but now I’m under no such pretenses. The universe has no moral bias, unfortunately…

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            9 hours ago

            It’s planned. Basically a decentralized neo axis. Thats the fun part seem to leave out regarding epstein, he discusses implementing governmental manipulation all starting at brexit… I feel like a damn crazy person (well, more crazy) yelling about this but it seems like everyone’s busy or just ignoring it

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      17 hours ago

      I feel like their racism is selective enough to consider Portuguese-looking Portuguese in Portugal as “okay” and Portuguese-looking Mexicans with the same exact skin colour in the US as not okay, does that make sense?

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        16 hours ago

        I don’t know, all three Portuguese guys in that picture are white-passing.

        Which, if it’s any surprise, is more common among the upper-class in Portugal. Shocker, I know…