• 1TB OLED $649 -> $949

• 512GB OLED $549 -> $789

Yowzers, I got the LCD one for $400 plus a little extra to swap in a bigger SSD. $1k for Zen 2 is tough to swallow…

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      I mean, it’s still affordable if you’re not playing new stuff. There are tons of computers/devices around that can natively play or emulate thousands of good, older games. It’s more of an issue that the “gaming community” is filled with shallow trend-chasers who pressure and denigrate other people to spend insane amounts of money on the hobby before they’re allowed to have an opinion or receive any sort of attention.

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        honestly even new stuff runs fine on older hardware. The days of games like Crysis having extremely bad optimization are behind us, pretty much everything that comes out now has pretty good compatability.

        source: I still have no trouble playing new major releases on my mid range pc from 5 years ago

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          My computer is 7 years old and I would still call it newish lol. To build a comparable one now would cost more than it did at the time.

          It’s pretty hard to find second hand PCs that are in working order + not cockroach infested biohazards. There’s a market for ex corporate laptops but most have awful thermal characteristics and integrated GPUs and wouldn’t be suitable for much gaming beyond dwarf fortress/true roguelikes/emulation up to like the DS probably skipping some PS2 games.

          Maybe in more populous places there are better used markets. People atm are trying to sell 5 year old hardware more than it was at the time.

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          I don’t play games released after October 7th. Don’t ask why.

          Edit: revising that to games after October 20th. Don’t ask why.
          Edit2: further revising that to games after September 26th 2024. Don’t ask why.

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      tbf from like 2007 to 2020 you could build a $600 PC and it would be good for gaming for at least 5 years, and on the console side of things they would drop the price by around like $100 every 3 years

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        I don’t know what currency you’re using but including peripherals it was still >1k aud iirc. in the early 2000s when I did a lot of building for friends an nvidea like 800 or something (they’d just rolled physx in a generation or 2 prior and games started getting cool) was like 300 aud, you could get a pretty nice core 2 duo for like 120 aud or one of the newish quad cores for like 300 (and play crisis! man that game smashed your CPU) ram was like 30 aud to be a sensible amount all the way from 32 bit to 64 bit systems. MB was ~100 aud, PSU was like 200 aud for a good one but would easily last multiple decades so it gets kinda amortised across builds. Even if a cap blew you could just replace it (omg when mobos started using solid state caps repairs got so much leas impossible <3 science nerds).

        Monitors were like 200-1500 aud, keyboards 100-400, speakers were expensive before the glory of fossi amps and Edifier often like 200-400 if you wanted 2.1 sound. A mic added another 50.

        Prices went down a bit, especially GPUs and spinning rust but I don’t know if it was ever that cheap unless you discount all peripherals. I’d usually tell people to beg, borrow, or steal some second hand peripherals and upgrade slowly. Same as hhds (used to cost a mint)

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    gaben needs another megayacht

    reminder that any price increases buyers are forced to pay could literally come out of a few rich pigs’ salaries at whatever company you’re buying the shit from

    edit: i went on reddit and immediately saw this. like when NYPD kills an unarmed black kid and suddenly they’re saving kittens from a tree on the front page of reddit.

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    The fuck are people even playing on something that expensive? The last AAA game i played while it was modern was Tears of the Kingdom, which was hella disappointing and BOTW which was damn good. Prior to getting a switch in like 2021 I think the last time I had played a AAA release when it was new was Skyrim, which was hella disappointing and New Vegas which was damn good. I genuinely dont see any appeal whatsoever in any major releases in the last decade or more. For the most part everything seems like its just late ps3 era stuff but with better graphics which I dont care about.

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      I adore indies because AAA hasn’t been taking many risks since like 2008 with a few standouts (botw, mhw — not my fav but a big change, elden ring/sekiro yikes that’s all that comes to mind for me!) but even indie gaming is getting a bit saturated with survival crafting and pick 1 of 3 action roguelites.

      Strategy turn based or realtime, deception, platformer, shooters that aren’t cod/halo/doom, colony sim, crpg, exploration-adventure, racing, vehicle sim etc are all left by the wayside. One or two coming out occasionally and usually not pushing the envelope.

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        Just makes the near infinite amount of older games that i can get for free more appealing. I used to really like video games. I had a nice little retro game booth in a flea market for a while, I’ve probably played through more games than most self proclaimed gamers because making sure the games i was selling worked and that i could answer questions was how I was making money. I was never one to prefer a genre before that either, there are good and bad and mid games in every genre. Standing out from the pack was what separated the classics and forgotten gems from the rest of the heap. Sometimes standing out didnt even mean being particularly good, some older games are worth trying because they are such radical departures from what we see as the estsblished formula, cause it was either a new formula or one that didnt exist yet.

        My top games just to illustrate the variety:

        Wild Guns

        F-Zero X

        FTL

        Skate 2

        Fire Emblem Thracia 776

        Super Metroid

        Castlevania 1

        We <3 Katamari

        Star Fox 64

        Metal Gear Solid 2

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    thats fuckin absurd to have the same cpu and increase the cost that much. i get it, RAM and SSD prices are fucking absurd, but like offer a 256GB version or something and let people just upgrade eventually, if they even need to.

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      I felt a little guilty when I bought mine because I was unemployed at the time… guess it could’ve been worse!