• plyth@feddit.org
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    The car industry could have gone electric in the 1970ies as a reaction to the oil crisis.

    To me this looks like a pattern.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Élysée_Treaty

    However, after US President John F. Kennedy expressed his displeasure about this to the West German ambassador to the United States, the Bundestag ratified the treaty with a preamble which called on France and West Germany to pursue tight cooperation with the United States; the eventual admission of the United Kingdom to the EEC; the achievement of a free trade accord in the framework of the GATT; and for the West’s military integration in NATO under US leadership.[10] This effectively emptied the Treaty of any sense (in Gaullist understanding) and put end to General de Gaulle’s hopes of building the EEC into a counterweight to the US and the USSR. “The Germans are behaving like pigs. They are putting themselves completely at the Americans’ service. They’re betraying the spirit of the Franco-German Treaty. And they’re betraying Europe.”[11] Later, in 1965, the General told his closest aides behind closed doors: “The Germans had been my greatest hope; they are my greatest disappointment.”

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      If someone talks about “failed German leadership in the EU” I’m not thinking car industry.

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        Germany supported the oil industry against its own interests. Can you expect leadership to independence from a country that has chosen to remain dependent on oil in the past?

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          Well, I don’t want German leadership of the EU. The EU isn’t the fourth Reich.

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            Neither do I. What I mean is that the suggested reforms don’t have to lead to independence.

            E.g. the two-speed EU can be used to fast-track policies that integrate the EU deeper into the Palantir security architecture. If Germany supports reforms that doesn’t make Germany one of the good guys but should be reason to do a double take.