• TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip
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    I never heard of any mushroom like the one pictured in the meme, looking so similar and even growing on the same soil/medium. It’s actually more like this:

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    there was this german books on cooking with mushrooms, with some parts actually written by a fungi expert and they were finishing up the project and the editorial went on to the glorious idea to save money on the illustrations, and decided to go AI against the will of the author and the expertise of everyone else and go ahead on the print.

    well… they had to destroy the whole edition.
    who could have known?

    https://www.stern.de/kultur/buecher/warum-ein-pilz-kochbuch-nun-vom-markt-genommen-werden-musste-36100284.html

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      When AI is involved in creating books, errors can occur. And if the subject is edible mushrooms, the danger can even be life‑threatening. In Hut ab! – Das Pilz‑Kochbuch from Callwey Verlag, author Martin H. Lorenz gathered recipes from renowned chefs such as Eckart Witzigmann, Franck Giovannini, Johann Lafer, and Vincent Klink. The publisher also provided exclusive photographs by Julia Schmidt, Nikolas Hagele, and Caroline Wimmer. The result is a product that would have been of genuine interest to many hobby cooks, especially in autumn. Nevertheless, the cookbook cannot be purchased for now. Besides the photos and recipes, the book also contains illustrations that have caused problems—because, apparently, artificial intelligence (AI) was at least partly involved in their creation. On the Reddit platform, users expressed confusion over the book’s images, noting that several mushroom species were depicted incorrectly. Laypeople could have confused edible mushrooms with similarly looking poisonous ones based on those illustrations. Mushroom expert speaks out The mushroom specialist involved in the production, Dennis Regul, has now publicly commented on the incident: “It concerns the book ‘Hut ab! Das Pilz‑Kochbuch’. I was involved, reviewed the content and gave feedback on errors. I received no fee, only five copies of the book. During the collaboration I discovered AI‑generated pictures and reported that they were completely unsuitable. Unfortunately, I have since found that they were still used,” he wrote on Instagram and Facebook. “I consider the AI‑generated images dangerous. I want to point this out because beginners could be led to collect the wrong mushrooms.” The publisher disputes this. According to a spokesperson, the graphics are not fully AI‑generated; they were created by in‑house illustrators and then visually harmonised with AI. The errors slipped in during that process—errors that the mushroom expert did not manage to spot in time. Although Regul provided critical feedback on some illustrations, those were corrected before publication. At Callwey, an intensive investigation is now underway to determine how the mistakes arose. The publisher has acted quickly: the book has been withdrawn from the market. Whether it will be reissued with corrected illustrations has not yet been decided; according to the spokesperson, this will not happen before 2026. AI becomes a problem for illustrators Earlier, the professional association of illustrators (Illustratoren‑Organisation, IO) had already criticised the use of AI in the industry. “When asked about the biggest future challenge, ‘Artificial Intelligence’ was by far the top answer. Moreover, reports are increasing about missing commissions, changed requests and price collapses,” the statement reads.

      (translated with AI 🤖)

      • Small_Quasar@lemmy.world
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        11 hours ago

        Well, you’ve got to admit getting us to poison ourselves with mushrooms is a bit more subtle than Skynet’s plan.

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      Not good enough for me knowing there are Thomas Midgley Juniors out there:

      On October 30, 1924, Midgley participated in a press conference to demonstrate the apparent safety of TEL, in which he poured TEL over his hands, placed a bottle of the chemical under his nose, and inhaled its vapor for sixty seconds, declaring that he could do this every day without succumbing to any problems. […] Midgley later took a leave of absence from work after being diagnosed with lead poisoning.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Midgley_Jr.

      He was the jackass who invented both leaded gasoline and CFCs and inflicted them on the world.

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        10 hours ago

        Yes, but a mystery mushroom would likely have much quicker-acting effects and it would be glorious to watch a bunch of these goobers keep over or absolutely trip balls on live television.

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          Isn’t the amanita mushroom one of the most deadly, and its unique symptom is that you (seem to) recover after a day or two?

          THEN the second unique symptom hits and you get to open up the abdominal cavity and pour out the remains of the liver.

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          I don’t understand how people think it’s such a big deal anyway. I mean, it’s functionally the same thing as calling someone a moron or an idiot or an imbecile, yet I don’t know anyone who has any problem with those words. All are obsolete medical terms for intellectually disabled people, used in modern parlance to insult someone’s intellect.

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            Where I’m from people use it frequently, but never about disabled people. They just mean stupid. In that capacity I agree, it’s literally the same on every level as idiot, moron, imbecile, feeble-minded, dumb, etc.

            If someone uses the word to refer to a mentally handicapped or disabled person, we’re gonna fight. If you call attacking Iran retarded, I agree wholeheartedly.

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              This is the correct way of thinking.

              Anyone trying to sell something different is either a psyop dipshit trying to sew division or a self-rigtheous fart smelling wokescold who was duped by the psyop.

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            I was an AuDHD kid in the 90s. That specific word was thrown at me a lot by both adults and my peers, especially because I lose the ability to speak when I’m stressed/overstimulated. I guess it still hurts when I hear it or read it, and going off this thread that’s a “me” problem. Definitely regret posting my original comment

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              Yeah back in the 90s it was still in use in some diagnostic criteria, even though it was already considered dated then. These days I don’t think it’s used in a medical capacity anywhere anymore.

              I don’t think it’s solely a you problem as many people do consider the term too offensive to use, but it is one of those words the jury is divided on, with just as many people using it nonchalantly. I expect over time it’ll be no different from moron or idiot.

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          The venn diagram of people who “don’t understand” incredibly easy to understand concepts, and people who wish that there were no words to describe people who “don’t understand” incredibly easy to understand concepts.

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              You’re right.

              But, damn near anything that’s said with mean intent about a visible minority long enough becomes a slur. So it is something of a game of whack-a-mole that continuously removes words from the language as collateral damage.

              I personally think people should just stop being mean entirely, slurs or not.

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            There’s describing someone’s inability to understand easy concepts and there’s using a medical condition in a derogatory manner.

            Similarly, frowning upon the n-slur does not imply that we have no more words for referring to people of color.

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              Mental retardation hasn’t been a widely recognized medical condition for at least 30 years. They started scrubbing the term out of diagnostic criteria in the 90s and I think the last one to use it was officially retired in the 00s.

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                That is not what I suggested. I compared your logical fallacy to a more extreme example in hopes that you notice how short-sighted your argument was.

                To remind you, your comment implied “If I can’t use <swear word>, how else will I refer to <group of people>?”.

                There are plenty of other words you can choose from both in place of the r-slur and the n-slur. Arguing that this in any way limits your vocabulary is incredibly narrow-minded.

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    Come on, at least tell us how many differences we’re supposed to be spotting.

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      Well, one could argue that it is the other way around. We consider most mushrooms as feasibly edible when it is easy enough to distinguish them from non-edible ones. There are thousands of mushroom species out there that are probably edible but that are just not worth anyone’s time. And we also focus more on certain groups of mushrooms that contain a higher percentage of edible ones, like boletes (and also champignons).

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        That’s fair. Few people dare to eat the edible Amanitas, although they’re said to be quite tasty. If the deadly species didn’t exist, they would probably be much more popular.