Complaining about tofu being bland is the equivalent of saying that a blank canvas is boring.

Saying you hate tofu is such a self own. It is one of and maybe the most versatile food of all time. It is cheap. It’s macros are at parity with chicken breast. It keeps well AND is much safer (food safety and healthwise) than meat.

I can confirm as someone going from eating meat with every meal to vegan, basic ass fried tofu tastes better than most restaurant meat these days.

What is even wilder is that the US grows a lot of soybeans, and the ideal target for MAGA would probably be a soybean farmer.

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    It absolutely cooks my brain that gym bro memes from 2012 are common knowledge among chuds now. the whole ‘soy has phytoestrogens therefore soy makes you a woman’ felt like a psyop even back then

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    So funny story. In Denmark ARLA (big ass farmer-owned cooperative but its farmers so its not cool it sucks) lobbyed HARD to make it so plant milk couldn’t be called milk[1]. The assumption was that the only reason people bought oat milk and the like was because they thought it was like cow milk and would taste like cow milk.
    After making it illegal to call plant milk milk ARLA saw no increase in sales.


    1. this is extra funny because milk originally referred to the juices excreted by plants ↩︎

  • It’s unfortunate that tofu and beyond beef and other plant-based proteins marketed themselves as meat replacements.

    Beyond beef, for instance, tastes absolutely nothing like beef… but it still slaps. If you go in expecting a 1:1 meat replacement (which most brain dead carnivores are, unfortunately) you’re gonna be disappointed. If you go in thinking “wow this is a new ingredient that will open up a whole new realm of flavor and texture in my cooking” then you’re in good shape.

    Of course, you have to actually cook your own food to begin with if this is going to work, which… I’m realizing fewer and fewer people cook, and even fewer know how to cook, and fewer still know how to cook and actually enjoy cooking.

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    Ops are really easy to spot if you pay attention to how things are internationally. There is no “anti-soy” in the UK, nobody calls anything soy except milk afaik. And tofu is tofu, nobody has strong opinions about tofu one way or any other.

    The op is regionally specific to the US and whoever is running it isn’t targeting non-US countries from what I can tell.

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    Most things that appeal to an assigned role/status quo/peer pressure is social manipulation by the ruling class, yes. Appeals to patriarchal fears of not fitting in because “soy milk is marketed as fat free and therefore its for women and the gays” in this case.

    And as appealing to masculinity works less and less, we’ll see appeals to other forms of social conditioning that targets peoples desire to fit in. “Keep your head down, you don’t want to be cringe, right?”

    You see it a lot, everyone falls for it. not-immune-to-propaganda

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      I read before that consumers are not logical at all and it blew my mind. All purchases are emotional. A man goes and buys a gigantic truck and says it is because “he needs it to do work”, because his appraisal of himself is he doesn’t believe in BS, he is logical, he is the one who gets things done.

      But the marketers know the truth: he is buying the truck because he is insecure, socially scared and wants to project intimidation at others. He is a conformist who wants admittance to the “in-group”. For this reason, he will financially overcompensate to “prove” his manliness to himself and the in-group.

      The man purchasing isn’t self-aware enough to recognize his own motives, which makes it easier for the salesperson to exploit their vulnerabilities for profit. Sales 101 textbooks basically say this : in order to sell something, you put forward an unspoken emotional proposition disguised as a logical choice.

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    The only objection to tofu I will entertain is not liking the texture. Because I can honestly see how it could ick some people out. Sure there’s options, even different brands have differences, but I absolutely understand that visceral “ew” feeling about certain textures.

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    What is even wilder is that the US grows a lot of soybeans, and the ideal target for MAGA would probably be a soybean farmer.

    The vast majority of that soy is for cattle feed, not human consumption. American soy farmers are an essential node of the beef industry.

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      The vast majority of that soy is for cattle feed, not human consumption. American soy farmers are an essential node of the beef industry.

      Even wilder. Soy could be the primary protein for most people and be better quality than what they eat now.

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    As someone who has eaten tofu for decades, it is like oatmeal (in my opinion). It is bland until you learn to spice it properly. But even getting someone to cook their own cheeseburger is impossible if they are addicted to the convenience and stability of corporate food.

    But I agree with your wider point. It was obvious to me that the whole “soy causes feminization via phytoestrogen” is just pesudo-scientific disinformation, but it was effective working class targeted propaganda in the USA. Undoubtedly it is the massive dairy lobby behind it all. The oil industry did the same with global warming. And every capitalist joins their bandwagon because they are all united against environmentalism of any kind, even to save their own future family members.

    I also find it weird that soy farmers are the salt of the earth types who make up Trump’s base (I live in the Midwest in soybean country), and it would make sense to advance their interests. But the system isn’t logical, it is a quilt made of many swaths of corruption, some competing against each other (dairy vs soy).

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    Most meat taste like ass if you don’t marinate or season it at all too.

    Im still struggling with the texture of the tofu, but that’s definitely user error. I can nail a flavor just as good as i could with seasoning any other protein for a meal.