Thank you John Steinbeck

  • WellTheresYourCobbler [ey/em, they/them]@hexbear.netOP
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    18 hours ago

    I was mistaken it was actually chapter 13 of East of Eden

    Maybe I'm misinterpreting his words but here's the text:

    Sometimes a kind of glory lights up the mind of a man. It happens to nearly everyone. You can feel it growing or preparing like a fuse burning toward dynamite. It is a feeling in the stomach, a delight of the nerves, of the forearms. The skin tastes the air, and every deep-drawn breath is sweet. Its beginning has the pleasure of a great stretching yawn; it flashes in the brain and the whole world glows outside your eyes. A man may have lived all of his life in the gray, and the land and trees of him dark and somber. The events, even the important ones, may have trooped by faceless and pale. And then—the glory—so that a cricket song sweetens his ears, the smell of the earth rises chanting to his nose, and dappling light under a tree blesses his eyes. Then a man pours outward, a torrent of him, and yet he is not diminished. And I guess a man’s importance in the world can be measured by the quality and number of his glories. It is a lonely thing but it relates us to the world. It is the mother of all creativeness, and it sets each man separate from all other men.

    I don’t know how it will be in the years to come. There are monstrous changes taking place in the world, forces shaping a future whose face we do not know. Some of these forces seem evil to us, perhaps not in themselves but because their tendency is to eliminate other things we hold good. It is true that two men can lift a bigger stone than one man. A group can build automobiles quicker and better than one man, and bread from a huge factory is cheaper and more uni-form. When our food and clothing and housing all are born in the complication of mass production, mass method is bound to get into our thinking and to elimi-nate all other thinking. In our time mass or collective production has entered our economics, our politics, and even our religion, so that some nations have substituted the idea collective for the idea God. This in my time is the danger. There is great tension in the world, tension toward a breaking point, and men are unhappy and confused. At such a time it seems natural and good to me to ask myself these questions. What do I believe in? What must I fight for and what must I fight against?

    Our species is the only creative species, and it has only one creative instrument, the individual mind and spirit of a man. Nothing was ever created by two men. There are no good collaborations, whether in music, in art, in poetry, in mathematics, in philosophy. Once the miracle of creation has taken place, the group can build and extend it, but the group never invents anything. The preciousness lies in the lonely mind of a man. And now the forces marshaled around the concept of the group have declared a war of extermination on that preciousness, the mind of man. By disparagement, by starvation, by repressions, forced direction, and the stunning hammerblows of conditioning, the free, roving mind is being pursued, roped, blunted, drugged. It is a sad suicidal course our species seems to have taken.

    And this I believe: that the free, exploring mind of the individual human is the most valuable thing in the world. And this I would fight for: the freedom of the mind to take any direction it wishes, undirected. And this I must fight against: any idea, religion, or govern-ment which limits or destroys the individual. This is what I am and what I am about. I can understand why a system built on a pattern must try to destroy the free mind, for this is one thing which can by inspection destroy such a system. Surely I can understand this, and I hate it and I will fight against it to preserve the one thing that separates us from the uncreative beasts. If the glory can be killed, we are lost.

    • valium_aggelein [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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      17 hours ago

      there are a lot of different readings on the narrator in east of eden. the narrator is a character in the book (though it is also supposed to be steinbeck since the steinbeck family is related to the arc in some way that i cant remember). some of what the narrator says is supposed to be satirical or ironic. i think there is some sense of irony in this quote. at least that is how i always interpreted it since its so obviously a “rugged individualism” jerk off which does not really reflect Steinbeck’s own philosophy. 100% steinbeck was critical of the USSR at this point and even worked with the CIA around this time but he was still engaged with the american “left” which even at its lamest was going to have some small degree of collective spirit. the american dream is an obvious theme in east of eden and one that steinbeck has complicated thoughts on. he takes it pretty literally in that it is a dream and not a reality but the fact that it is still a widespread dream makes it have a huge impact on the lives of americans and i think he finds that admirable. east of eden is an incredible piece of literature and like any good piece of literature, i think it contains a lot of different layers but of course understanding steinbeck’s own opinions around this time is important for interpreting it.

      by the end of his life his views definitely got worse and worse though. awful opinions on the vietnam war, for example. grapes of wrath is still one of the best pieces of proleterian literature out there however.

      • WellTheresYourCobbler [ey/em, they/them]@hexbear.netOP
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        17 hours ago

        Omg I did forget the narrator was a character I just finished chapter 15 and he started talking about his mother and that threw me for a loop for a second. Thanks for the additional context too!

        Edit: just to add I am also really loving the book so far. I love jumping from perspective to perspective in stories and the characters are so interesting.

        Edit 2: and also I’m looking forward to reading the grapes of wrath at some point but I have a whole backlog of books at the moment so idk when I’ll get around to it yet.

        • TraschcanOfIdeology [they/them, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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          East of Eden is my favorite book, ever. And I think a large thing about it is how whenever a character makes a speech or statement where they’re absolutely certain, they will be proved wrong for their hubris, almost like an ironic punishment by God. Only one character stays curious and humble, and is portrayed as the wisest, best among all characters.

          It is a very biblical book, in the sense that Life, or God, will dole out judgement to people getting too big for their breeches, and to me it is largely about individual and collective sin and redemption. Not that there isn’t a political read of it, but it doesn’t seem to make politics one of its central themes, like in his other works.

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          nice, glad you’re enjoying it! i think east of eden is his “best” book but grapes of wrath is so endlessly quotable it’s insane. you will definitely like it if you already fuck with his writing style