• Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    4 hours ago

    All I’m saying is, years after the fact, i wish i paid more attention to math and “stupid” proofs. A lot of coding/scripting logic can be derived from them.

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    8 hours ago

    Triangle, “has 180 degrees,” subtends 360 degrees.

    Circle, “has 360 degrees,” the sum of the interior angles is infinite.

    (I’m not actually confused, it’s just that “a circle has 360 degrees” and “a triangle has 180 degrees” is a little annoying in that they use different definitions.)

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      7 hours ago

      A circle has 360° discreet 1° angles. While there’s a theoretically infinite number of angles within a circle, those angles would need to have an infinitesimally small fraction of a degree. If you divide a circle into 3600 angles, each angle would be 0.1°

      A segment of a circle is also measured as an arc corresponding to a vertex facing outwards from the center. A triangle’s vertices on the other hand face inwards. The sum of those angles is always 180°. If you juxtapose a circle on top of it, yes, it goes all the way around since it’s a closed shape. But if you place the three vertices side by side so that their lines line up, it’ll only cover half of the circle.

      There’s no inconsistency.

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        6 hours ago

        I don’t think we’re talking about the same thing.

        If you take a circle to be the limit of a polygon as the number of sides goes to infinity, then you have infinite interior angles, with each angle approaching 180deg, as the edges become infinitely short and approach being parallel. The sum of the angles is infinite in this case.

        If you reduce this to three sides instead of infinite, then you get a triangle with a sum of interior angles of 180deg which we know and love.

        On the other hand, any closed shape (Euclidean, blah blah), from the inside, is 360deg basically by definition.

        It’s just a different meaning of angle.

        See, for example, the internal angle sum, which is unbounded: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regular_polygon

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          3 hours ago

          Except that the angle of a circle’s circumference is measured as an arc with the vertex at the center, and to include an infinite number of angles you would need to reduce the degrees accordingly to avoid overlapping

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            3 hours ago

            That’s exactly my point, there are two different colloquial ways of talking about angles. I am not claiming there is a mathematical inconsistency.

            Colloquially, a “triangle has 180 degrees” and a “circle has 360 degrees.” Maybe that’s different in different education systems, but certainly in the US that’s how things are taught at the introductory level.

            The sum of internal angles for a regular polygon with n sides is (n-2pi. In the limit of n going to infinity, a regular polygon is a circle. From above it’s clear that the sum of the internal angles also goes to infinity (wheres for n=3 it’s pi radians, as expected for a triangle).

            There is no mystery here, I am just complaining about sloppy colloquial language that, in my opinion, doesn’t foster good geometric intuition, especially as one is learning geometry.

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    13 hours ago

    Imagine your mathematician friend has gone blind and says, “naaaah, pretty sure it’s a hexagon, prove me wrong, brah.”

    All maths problems should be like this.