• BillyClark@piefed.social
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    17 hours ago

    I realize what I’m saying is basically the same point as the post, but I can’t help myself… What was that moron talking about? When normal people get into arguments, it’s over mundane everyday shit like forgetting to wash dishes or being irritated about friends or activities. Not stuff that you can cite.

    Normal people don’t get into arguments with their partners about shit where the answer is already known and you just have to look it up on Wikipedia or something. And only a moron would argue against the already proven truth.

    • West_of_West@piefed.social
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      17 hours ago

      Somethings are more ephemeral, philosophy, political and social sciences, that sort of thing. And arguing vibes against a person who can quote Hobbes, Foucault, Spinoza, Butler, etc. Will not go well, but doesn’t necessarily lead to a resolution

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      17 hours ago

      I may have an explanation. I’m gonna guess this guy probably talks out of his ass, like me, and bullshits a bunch of vibe based conjectures.

      Harry Frankfort wrote an essay and then a book called “On Bullshit,” and he talks about how people often times don’t necessarily lie, but they bullshit. Bullshit is something based on what we don’t concretely know, which is different from a lie. A lie is when we tell someone something that we believe to be true.

      Like if I saw someone who looked like friend’s girlfriend cheating on her with another woman, and I tell my friend her girlfriend isn’t cheating, then I lied. Whether or not I actually know if the girlfriend is cheating is irrelevant to the truth (truthiness?) of my statement.