#xkcd No. 3204

Date: 2026-2-6

Title: Dinosaurs And Non-Dinosaurs

Alt text: Staplers are actually in Pseudosuchia, making them more closely related to crocodiles than to dinosaurs.

https://xkcd.com/3204/

  • stephen@lazysoci.al
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    9 hours ago

    Are birds dinosaurs?

    I thought that they descended from dinosaurs. And - that doesn’t make them dinosaurs, right?

    • Apepollo11@lemmy.world
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      Taxonomically speaking, birds are dinosaurs.

      There isn’t a place to put a line between them - all the things that make birds “birds” also apply to dinosaurs.

      A super fun fact is that of the two main types of dinosaur, Saurischia (“lizard-hipped”) and Ornithischia (“bird-hipped”), birds actually evolved from the lizard-hipped group.

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          Bony fish specifically but I’d argue that the common name for the clade bony fish is misleading and that bony fish aren’t a subtype of fish but rather a clade of animals descending from a subset of the non-clade category of things we call fish. Not all fish belong to a single clade we can call fish, bony fish descend from one of these unrelated things we collectively refer to as fish.

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            Basically, I would say the term fish is more like our term for tree (representing a niche rather than clade) unless you would argue all vertebrates are fish. We are a member of the clade bony fish so we are bony fish but we do not fill the same niche as fish so aren’t a fish. So “Bony Fish” is a noun distinct from bony (adjective) fish (noun).