• dead [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    10 hours ago

    This is fake news. The article is quoting Ynet, which is an Israeli news website. It puts ‘China bans all new investments in Israel’ because that statement is according to some Israeli person.

    The title should say ‘China bans all new investments in Israel, according to some Israeli CEO’. It reads like the typical Israel persecution complex.

    https://www.ynetnews.com/business/article/skeqnl08wg

  • miz [any, any]@hexbear.net
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    headline might be better if it said the zionist entity claims a China ban because the only source in the screenshot seems to be the zionists

  • https://www.ynetnews.com/business/article/skeqnl08wg

    Second paragraph, just below where the image cuts off:

    In a response letter attached to the lawsuit, the Chinese fund said that since the outbreak of the war in Israel, Beijing has classified Israel as a “high-risk area” and imposed a ban on any new Chinese investments in the country, making it impossible to carry out the option.


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    I have been highly critical of china on israel (amongst other geopolitical things), but this is welcome. Whether it’s actual state policy, or whether israel is just so toxic for investment that this is the market in action, either is good news for palestine - and I welcome it.

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    isntrael “Do you wanna buy this thing?”

    china-stars “Nope”

    isntrael “Shit!” smashes the lawsuit button repeatedly

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    My cynical take is that Pissrael is simply to volatile for China to want to invest in a high tech sector. Which is still relatively good, but maybe not reflecting policy change as much as business interests.

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      A sea change in Chinese policy towards actually doing good shit would be great, but they’d need to commit to it for a while to make up for the decades of not doing that.

      edit: to be clear I agree that I don’t think this indicates a sea change, I’m just saying it would be great if one happened

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        I don’t think it’s a sea change in China’s policy, it’s a sea change in circumstances that they are responding to. We have no reason to believe China will be more proactive in the future, I’m just glad to see more bad things happen to Israel.

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      The CPC allowing trade with the Zionist entity was bad but people always treat it like they were supporting them and seem to forget that the axis of resistance was also massively funded and supplied by them at the same time.

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        I mean, they were supporting Israel by keeping its economy afloat when they could single-handedly nuke it into the ground. Every breach of BDS is support of genocide, it really is that simple.

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          You’re reducing complex geopolitical economy to moral abstractions. That is idealism, not material analysis. In material terms we must look at who wields economic power, who sustains whom, and what the objective effects of policies are, not just rhetorical labels like “support” detached from underlying forces.

          First, trade figures show China is far from Israel’s largest overall economic partner. The European Union collectively is Israel’s biggest trading partner and investor, with two-way trade far exceeding that with China, and the United States close behind as a top buyer of Israeli exports and major source of arms and aid. Even at its peak, China’s goods trade with Israel has lagged EU and U.S. trade by a tens of billions. This undercuts any simplistic assertion that China “kept Israel’s economy afloat.” In objective material terms, the core economic sustenance of the Zionist entity (particularly in military and strategic sectors) comes from U.S. military aid and deep EU investment, not Chinese commerce. The U.S. alone supplies billions annually in military financing and decades of cumulative assistance, dwarfing what trade volumes ever could.

          Second, China’s engagement with Israel historically centered on goods imports and technology exchange, not the strategic military-industrial entanglement that the U.S. maintains. China imported Israeli tech components and sold consumer and industrial goods, this was not tantamount to subsidizing Israeli military, such as how the U.S. does through direct financing, arms sales, and joint defense programs. That is a key material distinction: trade in goods does not equal direct military support.

          Third, because China understood the material logic of maintaining leverage and strategic space, it has taken concerted steps that undermine key Israeli economic advantages, such as aggressively promoting synthetic and lab-grown diamonds instead of natural stones (hitting a major sector of the Israeli economy) and cultivating alternatives to Israeli or Western software and tech dominance. These are strategic moves that weaken the Zionist entity’s economic rents, not bolster them.

          Fourth, China’s broader Middle East policy must be understood dialectically. China purchased over 90% of Iran’s oil exports helping them bypass sanctions, provided advanced defensive and satellite technology that materially increased Iran’s capacity to resist U.S./Israeli military pressure, and brokered regional normalization between Iran and Saudi Arabia. This is not symbolic “support”; it is material backing of states opposed to Zionist and U.S. imperialist aims. China’s trade with Israel existed alongside, and was in my opinion very much overshadowed by, its substantial strategic backing of Iran and the axis of resistance.

          Fifth, material conditions show economic warfare alone on Israel would be materially ineffective absent damaging its key backers. Israel’s economy and war machine are sustained predominantly by U.S. military aid and deep EU economic ties. Even if China had unilaterally cut trade earlier, without the collapse of those major partners, the structural economic base of the Zionist state would remain intact.

          Finally, openly hostile confrontation with Israel by China, beyond pragmatic criticism and measured pressure, risks serious regional escalation. Israel is a U.S. client state with deep military integration into U.S. regional architecture; an overt break would risk drawing in U.S. strategic responses and destabilizing broader anti-imperialist projects in the region. The material balance of forces does not support unilateral isolation of Israel by China alone without risking wider conflict. That risk is not something to be ignored in strategy.

          China’s engagement with Israel was a contradictory policy driven by economic and strategic interests. Its trade never equated to primary economic support comparable to U.S. military aid or EU investment. China’s material support for Iran and other resistance forces, its moves to undercut Israeli economic advantages, and its avoidance of outright military confrontation all reflect real power dynamics. Simplifying this to moral binaries ignores the underlying imperialist structures that actually sustain the Zionist state.

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    Chinese government ban on new investments in Israel since the war

    I’m confused, when the ban happened?

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      Since the “war” in Gaza began, China hasn’t “banned” any investment to Israel. Like the soft-ban on American rare earth metal exports, there’s no “ban” at all. What happens is the proper forms to get the investment pushed through get “lost” or “delayed.” Certain inconsistencies are pointed out. Replies from the proper authorities take months, etc etc. It’s a plausible deniability ban.

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        For context on this:

        “In recent weeks, companies in the hi-tech sector have complained about delays in shipments from China of dual-use components. In all the checks we conducted with official bodies, it appears that there is no change in regulations, but rather enforcement that was not practiced in the past. Such technical requests create bureaucratic hurdles,” a government official told Ynet.

        “The Chinese are imposing a kind of sanction on us. They don’t officially declare it, but they are delaying shipments to Israel,” a senior figure in one of the factories told Ynet. “They have various excuses and pretexts, such as requiring suppliers from China to obtain export licenses to Israel that did not exist before. Additionally, they demand that we fill out numerous forms, causing significant delays. This has never happened to us before. We are talking about many different types of components. In electronic products, there are tens of thousands of components, but if even one component doesn’t arrive, we cannot deliver the product.”

        Note the date, this article is from 2023, so these kinds of soft bans have been ongoing for years. Per https://www.ynetnews.com/business/article/b1ze7rrda