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chgxvjh [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net to Science@hexbear.netEnglish · 17 days ago

Clicker Training for Humans: How Immediate Feedback Improves Learning

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Clicker Training for Humans: How Immediate Feedback Improves Learning

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chgxvjh [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net to Science@hexbear.netEnglish · 17 days ago
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  • BatsAreRats [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    trans girls have been doing this for years though 😒

    • RiotDoll [she/her, she/her]@hexbear.net
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      every time i’ve had somebody willing to do that shit with me i get really obsessive over my own autonomy and break the training so nobody has power over me

      but i won’t lie, the few times i’ve let it be and stick around i got way more done and w as generally happier

      but autonomy… autonomy more important

      • BatsAreRats [she/her]@hexbear.net
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        it okay to not be into a kink 💜

        • RiotDoll [she/her, she/her]@hexbear.net
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          that’s not it!!!

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    I didn’t realise it before but this makes me think of how many video games operate on a similar concept of immediate feedback to create what we would call an “addictive” game. I think a lot of gamified learning apps like Duolingo tap into this as well: it doesn’t matter if the reward is intangible, like a click, it just matters that your brain knows when it is performed something that was once associated with reward!

    • SickSemper [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.net
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      The YouTuber Noah Caldwell-Gervais made an hours-long Diablo series retrospective that starts with “damn d1 is good, gold go clink” and ends with “these games are just slot machines with varying levels of exploitation depending on monetization”

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    Why does this article turn into an ad for a classroom tool that has no relation to click feedback training? Classroom clickers are a completely different thing that have been around for decades

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      Yeah its weird. I think I had (have? I don’t remember reselling it) one, and it was a glorified remote.

      Maybe you could make one that clicked (quietly, but you could feel it) if you answered right. But the one I had had pretty standard (and unchanging) feedback. If you get the stimulus every time it stops being a stimulus. The article also feels unfinished. Not just disconnected, but to me feels like it just ends. Honestly feels like a draft I’d write then decide “eh, I’m fine with a B on this”.

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    I wonder if there is a way you can use this idea for self improvement. Just a lucid idea floating around while reading this.

    • chgxvjh [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netOP
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      You can definitely use it to make yourself worse by enabling all phone notifications.

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      I think a third party would need to be involved to provide the feedback, but I can imagine it works on a similar principle to stuff like star charts.

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      It certainly can, though I think part of why clickers are used with dogs is that their ability to communicate is more limited and our ability to communicate with them is magnitudes more limited than that. With other humans, higher-order communications can be systematized, so there’s more we can accomplish.

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    Clicker training for humans has been perfected in the shape of slot machines and addictive apps.

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    This should be normalised as quickly as possible. After success in schooling it would make its way into workplaces and become the easiest and most effective way for communists to describe the relationship between workers and bosses.

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      Good comment click

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        doggirl-happy

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        neuron-activation

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    Alternative title: orthopedic surgeon clicker trains students.


    ⓘ This user is suspected of being a cat. Please report any suspicious behavior.

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    doggirl-thumbsup

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