No condemning Cuba coming from this campaign 😏

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    I view the presidential campaign as more of a way to discuss and popularize socialism with the masses. Most people’s conception of politics is limited to electoralism and the campaign provided the opportunity to meet people where they are at and redefine what socialism and what politics could be for them

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        national elections are a very expensive form of advertisin

        You pay for them by building organization and party cadre far more than you do by spending money. You’re not “advertising”, you’re speaking to people face to face - the essential work of mass politics.

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          idk you could do the same effort tabling or going door to door for local elections and get more and higher quality interest than a presidential candidate in places where you have no state or local examples.

          all the yelling to liberals about voting PSL or Green in “safe” blue states didn’t amount to much and if people aren’t interested in electoral efforts at all you’re not going to pick us up by running for president.

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            idk you could do the same effort tabling or going door to door for local elections and get more and higher quality interest than a presidential candidate in places where you have no state or local examples.

            Oh, you say this from all your experience?

            Your assumption is wrong. You do not get the same results. We’ve done it. We still do it. It is not at, at all, the same results.

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      For the presidential campaign that makes sense, though it is actually offputting how much local PSL people talk about the campaign and this or that debate or speech. I think they get into it a bit more than is warranted for a cynical PR campaign, which is not reaply the fault of the individual members, but an inherent weakness to prioritizing bourgeois electoralism without complete clarity. If folks have to put so much time into it, I think they want to think it has more value than a PR campaign.

      For a MA Senate campaign, though, I don’t really get it unless they are super interested in doing the exact same thing but only for Maine.

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        MA isn’t the worst place to campaign. It’s a fairly progressive state that’s also not a center of the DNC political machine like NYC and LA. Sanders got his start from Vermont after all. Vermont is a state that Democrats took for granted which allowed him to wiggle his way in as a third party dark horse.

        I think a US branch of Palestine Action was also formed at MA, so there’s definitely a well of leftists that PSL can tap to. Not the worst place to recruit cadre.

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        an inherent weakness to prioritizing bourgeois electoralism without complete clarity

        This is your misunderstanding. The impossibility of electoral victory makes it very clear we aren’t “prioritizing bourgeois electoralism”.

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        The Boston PSL gets pretty large showings to their events as they are quite active and there are plenty of people in the city interested in some sort of vague radical politic. A lot of people I know attend the rallies but don’t know really what the PSL is. They just show up cause of the messaging and it getting shared on social media. And it’s not like they talk through the full party program at each rally. So I can kinda see the senate run as maybe a good PR move to really put the name of the org itself out there more to turn the attention they get from rallies into membership or more dedicated followings. Idk how successful it’ll be. Obviously I hope it works. The Boston PSL does a lot of great stuff