Someone once told me the browser would be the platform of the future for running applications sometime in the mid 90’s and I dismissed the guy because he was a BS-talking marketdroid - and also because the idea was completely idiotic on its face. Yet here we are…
We tend to remember the hits and forget the misses. They said we’d all be plugged into VR and riding around on Segways, too, etc. Those things settled into mature, but minor, technologies, and no doubt genAI will too–but that’s not going to generate enough revenue to justify the out of this world valuations of OpenAI, et. al.
One person said we’d all be riding around Segways, which would totally transform transportation. He was predictably wrong.
edit - Wasn’t it one person that predicted the new VR world? Who then demonstrated this grand, new technology to demonstrate how Puerto Rico was devastated by hurricane?
I don’t have time to dig up the ephemera of the hype cycles that VR has been through over the years, and the thousands of webforum posts proselytizing the unstoppable rise of VR with the same sort dire warnings we hear now about gen AI (“Embrace it or be Left Behind!”) but it definitely wasn’t just one guy pushing it as the next big thing.
As for the Segway, you can read a brief history here. Short version: it was the beneficiary of TONS of credulous media coverage and evangelist early adopters, but in the end it was beaten to death by cheap scooters and became a joke.
I was referring Zuckerburg as the guy hyping VR. I guess there were many people hyping VR but only him spending billions. Here is an article about his Puerto Rico VR fiasco.
I’m not saying it’s desirable, I’m saying don’t dismiss it because stupid shit happens when enough stupid people with money want to make it happen. And Sam Altman is loaded.
At a guess, when people ask it to “sum the numbers above”, they usually test it on the sequence 1,2,3,4,5. It’s an LLM, it’s doesn’t process its input, it returns one of the most probable tokens based on what it’s seen before. If it actually becomes a “thing”, crashing the global economy is the least of our worries.
Microsoft says its Agent Mode in Excel has an accuracy rate of 57.2 percent in SpreadsheetBench, a benchmark for evaluating an AI model’s ability to edit real world spreadsheets.
There’s a “it’s in the product” thing, and a “people actually, seriously, use it fir actual work” thing. We’ve got the first, I’m hoping that enough people get burnt by it being wrong, in non-serious ways, that noone tries to use it seriously. Hope and expectation are different things though. sigh
Its added 4 and 5 also. I think its solving a trianguar number pattern: n(n+1)/2. These things are in maths tests all the time where you need to find the next two in the sequence
‘AI’ has done some really good stuff, but it has to be shepherded really tightly if it is going to be any actual use.
It isn’t clever enough to be this huge machine that takes everybody’s jobs and does everything - which is what the likes of Altman said for quite a long time. It can’t be accurate enough. So now they are looking for other ways to monetise what they have achieved, which, imvho, is enabling natural language communication between a human and a computer.
Im curious if a =COPILOT formula gives the same results on that sheet today as it would next year after the LLM has changed with the extra input. Will it reassess that every time the sheet is opened and there is an internet connection?
He’s still kinda wrong though. With the exception of corporate desk jobs, the vast majority of computing is done on phones/tablets these days and on those platforms apps are still king.
We’ve been trying to abstract hardware since… C. We’ve had much better virtual machines, but they never catch on.
Adoption is a feature you can’t design.
But for LLMs digging any deeper than they already have, lol no. Microsoft bet the farm and demanded a whole new keyboard key. People see it as an unreliable convenience at best. It’s not getting any better until after the bubble pops.
We’ve been abstracting away hardware details since the invention of punchcards. “Assembly code” is a remarkably high level abstraction above microcode, which is a remarkably high abstraction above logic gate arrays.
Well, it’s how the personal terminals in star trek are used most of the time. They don’t even have keyboards, not only in the cabins but also the one in Picard’s ready room.
On TNG only the nerdiest nerd of all, so much of a nerd to be an android, had a computer with a physical input interface in his cabin, Data.
Don’t dismiss this nonsense.
Someone once told me the browser would be the platform of the future for running applications sometime in the mid 90’s and I dismissed the guy because he was a BS-talking marketdroid - and also because the idea was completely idiotic on its face. Yet here we are…
We tend to remember the hits and forget the misses. They said we’d all be plugged into VR and riding around on Segways, too, etc. Those things settled into mature, but minor, technologies, and no doubt genAI will too–but that’s not going to generate enough revenue to justify the out of this world valuations of OpenAI, et. al.
One person said we’d all be riding around Segways, which would totally transform transportation. He was predictably wrong.
edit - Wasn’t it one person that predicted the new VR world? Who then demonstrated this grand, new technology to demonstrate how Puerto Rico was devastated by hurricane?
I don’t have time to dig up the ephemera of the hype cycles that VR has been through over the years, and the thousands of webforum posts proselytizing the unstoppable rise of VR with the same sort dire warnings we hear now about gen AI (“Embrace it or be Left Behind!”) but it definitely wasn’t just one guy pushing it as the next big thing.
As for the Segway, you can read a brief history here. Short version: it was the beneficiary of TONS of credulous media coverage and evangelist early adopters, but in the end it was beaten to death by cheap scooters and became a joke.
I was referring Zuckerburg as the guy hyping VR. I guess there were many people hyping VR but only him spending billions. Here is an article about his Puerto Rico VR fiasco.
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/10/facebook-ceo-mark-zuckerberg-slammed-for-puerto-rico-vr-video.html
I was there for the Segway hype and letdown. As soon as details were released inventors were trying to make their own. It did not take long.
Please no…
I’m not saying it’s desirable, I’m saying don’t dismiss it because stupid shit happens when enough stupid people with money want to make it happen. And Sam Altman is loaded.
I know, and it’s fucking scary…
Just today I saw this post on Mastodon, and cannot fathom how they’ll want to run entire apps flawlessly inside LLMs, and at what ecological cost!?
LOL, I give up, I can’t even figure out how it got 15.
At a guess, when people ask it to “sum the numbers above”, they usually test it on the sequence 1,2,3,4,5. It’s an LLM, it’s doesn’t process its input, it returns one of the most probable tokens based on what it’s seen before. If it actually becomes a “thing”, crashing the global economy is the least of our worries.
It is actually already a thing: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/copilot-function-5849821b-755d-4030-a38b-9e20be0cbf62
Also, see this article from last week: https://www.theverge.com/news/787076/microsoft-office-agent-mode-office-agent-anthropic-models
Hmm… -.-
There’s a “it’s in the product” thing, and a “people actually, seriously, use it fir actual work” thing. We’ve got the first, I’m hoping that enough people get burnt by it being wrong, in non-serious ways, that noone tries to use it seriously. Hope and expectation are different things though. sigh
Easy. You got 1 and 2, which is obviously 12. Then you add 3, because it is a sum, so 15 comes out. Don’t forget to like and subscribe!
Almost works in JS.
+("1" + 2) + 3is 15, and"1" + 2 - -3is 15, but"1" + 2 + 3is “123”. 🙄️I’m still not convinced Javascript is a serious language rather than a prank.
Its added 4 and 5 also. I think its solving a trianguar number pattern: n(n+1)/2. These things are in maths tests all the time where you need to find the next two in the sequence
1,2,3 … 12 is twelve + 3 = 15.
‘AI’ has done some really good stuff, but it has to be shepherded really tightly if it is going to be any actual use.
It isn’t clever enough to be this huge machine that takes everybody’s jobs and does everything - which is what the likes of Altman said for quite a long time. It can’t be accurate enough. So now they are looking for other ways to monetise what they have achieved, which, imvho, is enabling natural language communication between a human and a computer.
Im curious if a =COPILOT formula gives the same results on that sheet today as it would next year after the LLM has changed with the extra input. Will it reassess that every time the sheet is opened and there is an internet connection?
Excel never automatically recalculates. Even if you use RANDOM it will still be the same. But touch the cell and it will be different
Nondeterministic spread sheets
Oh no
He’s still kinda wrong though. With the exception of corporate desk jobs, the vast majority of computing is done on phones/tablets these days and on those platforms apps are still king.
We’ve been trying to abstract hardware since… C. We’ve had much better virtual machines, but they never catch on.
Adoption is a feature you can’t design.
But for LLMs digging any deeper than they already have, lol no. Microsoft bet the farm and demanded a whole new keyboard key. People see it as an unreliable convenience at best. It’s not getting any better until after the bubble pops.
We’ve been abstracting away hardware details since the invention of punchcards. “Assembly code” is a remarkably high level abstraction above microcode, which is a remarkably high abstraction above logic gate arrays.
Well, it’s how the personal terminals in star trek are used most of the time. They don’t even have keyboards, not only in the cabins but also the one in Picard’s ready room.
On TNG only the nerdiest nerd of all, so much of a nerd to be an android, had a computer with a physical input interface in his cabin, Data.