• abbotsbury@lemmy.world
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    19 hours ago

    They are specifically attacked for being homophobic.

    No, they are attacked for (assumingly) being gay

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      19 hours ago

      Maybe you and I are having different conversations then. I’ve never experienced it being taken this way.

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        14 hours ago

        I’ve never experienced it being taken this way

        But you have, that’s what the entire discussion is about.

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          7 hours ago

          No, it’s about the misunderstanding that it might be meant this way. I don’t think most commenters here are actually homophobic.

          But look, obviously I can’t know for sure how other people mean it when they say it, but I can when I’m the one talking.

          I’m bisexual. Bisexuality is a normal and beautiful part of the spectrum of human sexuality, and anyone who has something against it is a certified moron.

          I personally think that many homophobic people are bisexual (or gay) and in horrible, hateful denial.

          I don’t think their queerness is to blame, but specifically their harmful behavior. I don’t think their queerness is the reason either, but nothing but good old sexism and heteronormativity. I still think that their queerness is part of an explanation, since it leads them to this horrible internal misunderstanding that sexuality is a choice. I don’t think all homophobes are queer, obviously some are straight, but I think it’s a significant portion of the most spiteful and publicly active ones. And again, them being (allegedly) queer is not what’s problematic about them in the slightest. It’s their homophobic behaviour.

          I’ve yet to see an example of someone who actually blames homosexuality or the queer community for homophobia in this argument, just people claiming that this is what’s somehow happening.