You could always decide you’re smart enough to figure your own security and privacy out and use graphene but as a user of graphene I don’t recommend it for the uninitiated or for the very skilled and knowledgeable.
Nope, I don’t recommend it’s use to anyone. A person who doesn’t understand can at best gain a false sense of security and a person who does (which I will not falsely represent myself to be) will gain an understanding of smartphone technology that causes them to either curtail their smartphone use overall or give up.
It’s phenomenal and eye opening learning experience though.
I think to be deprecatory about their choice. Or while acknowledging it has use they still wouldnt recommend it.
I have a ton of apps I have used/continue to use that I would never recommend to people. (Dont use anything made by elsevier, they are the devil)
All the technical stuff is beyond me though. I have android on a cheap phone because I am poor and not tech savvy.
I recommend against it. Aside from gaining aesthetics and user experience (I too genuinely love typing texts on a numeric keypad) you’re leaving behind almost every security and privacy enhancement that exists and it’s truly trivial to dump the contents of an old flip phone once you’ve got it open.
How does one securely downgrade tech, then? Using an old smart phone just sucks because everything runs slower than me after an entire pizza regardless of if it’s just texting and browsing or games or anything.
I want to have phone where i can’t run the proprietary apps from my work but can browse the net and send texts and listen to music without taking 4 hours to load
You dont. Old technology is easier to bypass and doesn’t support new stuff either because no one wrote the software for it or because the hardware isn’t capable.
We are using a vast, globe spanning system literally developed for surveillance and intelligence during the Cold War. Its predecessor, the copper line telephone systems’ wireless offspring, was augmented by an unholy alliance of technology and law into a vile chimera suitable only for spying. We have to recognize our position and make compromises.
The compromises I’ve chosen to make revolve around mistrust of state actors and service providers and led me to use an iphone with a bunch of settings changed and manual backups/music loading using an old computer.
You might be comfortable with a flip phone and an ipod (or any mp3 player, there’s just a lot of activity around the now “retro” ipods).
If you only have one phone it’s been time to switch away from android for years now.
What other OS even is there? I’m not going to apple
I use /e/OS on a fairphone. It’s OK.
That’s literally android
Chinese Android
Still android
technically already have one but it’s from a billion years ago
You don’t have any serious options in that case.
You could always decide you’re smart enough to figure your own security and privacy out and use graphene but as a user of graphene I don’t recommend it for the uninitiated or for the very skilled and knowledgeable.
Typo? or are you saying Graphene is only suitable for a narrow band of intermediate users
Nope, I don’t recommend it’s use to anyone. A person who doesn’t understand can at best gain a false sense of security and a person who does (which I will not falsely represent myself to be) will gain an understanding of smartphone technology that causes them to either curtail their smartphone use overall or give up.
It’s phenomenal and eye opening learning experience though.
They’re saying they dont recommend it to anyone.
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I think to be deprecatory about their choice. Or while acknowledging it has use they still wouldnt recommend it. I have a ton of apps I have used/continue to use that I would never recommend to people. (Dont use anything made by elsevier, they are the devil)
All the technical stuff is beyond me though. I have android on a cheap phone because I am poor and not tech savvy.
In that case ig check if you phone supports lineageOS and look for tutorials on installing it
Rooting your android phone makes it less secure
GrapheneOS doesn’t support PinePhone? Is there some third party?
Nah I was conflating two things, Pine with the mobile Debian that you lock down, or a Pixel with Graphene would be (some)the options
Okay so I can either have the shit google option or the equally shit apple option.
Yes.
Gonna stop you right there. No I couldn’t
I was honestly thinking of going down to flip/slide phone tech anyway
I recommend against it. Aside from gaining aesthetics and user experience (I too genuinely love typing texts on a numeric keypad) you’re leaving behind almost every security and privacy enhancement that exists and it’s truly trivial to dump the contents of an old flip phone once you’ve got it open.
How does one securely downgrade tech, then? Using an old smart phone just sucks because everything runs slower than me after an entire pizza regardless of if it’s just texting and browsing or games or anything.
I want to have phone where i can’t run the proprietary apps from my work but can browse the net and send texts and listen to music without taking 4 hours to load
You dont. Old technology is easier to bypass and doesn’t support new stuff either because no one wrote the software for it or because the hardware isn’t capable.
We are using a vast, globe spanning system literally developed for surveillance and intelligence during the Cold War. Its predecessor, the copper line telephone systems’ wireless offspring, was augmented by an unholy alliance of technology and law into a vile chimera suitable only for spying. We have to recognize our position and make compromises.
The compromises I’ve chosen to make revolve around mistrust of state actors and service providers and led me to use an iphone with a bunch of settings changed and manual backups/music loading using an old computer.
You might be comfortable with a flip phone and an ipod (or any mp3 player, there’s just a lot of activity around the now “retro” ipods).
It’s so fucking easy to install you just plug your phone into your computer and go to https://grapheneos.org/install/web
Yes you have to unlock your bootloader but that is also extremely simple. The whole thing takes like 15 minutes
Internet says i can’t unlock boot loader for my “alcatel Lume”
Sorry if I’m being overly obtuse I’m pretty bad at brain thinking
Only works with pixel devices