Stay safe rule, my brothers, sisters and anything outside and in between.

No idea where else I could post this with maximum visibility.

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    idk how feasible hiding someone in a fully authoritarian no-privacy regime would be, ig it’s best to hope that some measure of privacy would stay for a little while

    some thoughts:

    • it’s probably best to assume that any store you entered is going to be tracked with facial recognition nowadays
    • in any large brand store, probably also knowledge of who bought what is sold to data brokers
    • obviously anything you do online is known about and saved, at least unless you have a trustworthy vpn located in a sane country
    • basically anywhere you go in a car is saved in a searchable database
    • we have the technology to track the movements aerially of a whole town from one drone

    i feel like if you’re one person it would be hard to support another secret person without it being obvious, if the administration is willing to devote the resources to aggregate all of this data and such

    edit: here’s a recent video that talks about some of the (publicly known) tracking stuff in the US

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      1. If you have to go into hiding, you go directly there.

      2. Once there you begin working on a means to get out of country. It needs to be done through VPN use something like mullvad.

      3. Do not leave hiding until it is time to leave the country.

      The reality is that if these guys go full Nazi, we have plenty of history to see what not to do if you can’t get out of country.

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          Thanks for adding all of that.

          It’s daunting.

          The bit about XMPP is good, VPNs usually require payment of some sort which means a way to track you. Signal is useful for off-device message intercepting. While I’m not sure of what the state of on-device interception, and it can’t be ruled out.

          And comparing this to a fugitive situation is sort of exactly what I was going for. The fleeing slaves, the persecuted in Nazi Germany, immigrants today, etc. in the eyes of authoritarian rule, there is no “getting off the bad list.”

          Ultimately, getting out of the country is the safest bet. But it’s hard. And that’s the original problem I want people to be aware of, it gets crazy hard the longer people stay.

          If I could get my son out of country I would. He doesn’t have much to fear, being a cute white boy with blonde hair and blue eyes. But he has AuADHD, and that’s the part I’m concerned with right now. I’d have to get special permission from the state and my ex to do it, and she won’t.

          But you did remind me of the other thing. Since I can’t get out with my kid, I’m getting into better shape. When it comes down to it, we’ll need it regardless if we flee or fight.

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        Yeah, I just don’t think you could stay hidden for long because it could be pretty obvious that someone’s suddenly started buying twice as much food right as one of their friends disappears (both of which would be relatively easy to detect without individual attention)

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      Target is one of the worst stores for facial tracking and has horrible privacy policies. I personally stopped shopping there completely to boycott this.

      When McDonald’s and Targets introduce facial tracking technology and push tracking Apps and want to become part of a dystopian panopticon of tracking, and then a decent chunk of people just stop going there, corporate ALWAYS blames something else, as though people are too stupid to opt out of this. They never roll back any tracking, just change CEOs and add new coupons and close stores.