It never had a chance. There’s no way to make profit selling ads and user data and have it be decentralized. They are conflicting goals.

I’m not saying there aren’t other ways to make a profit on a decentralized platform, but they never said they had any other business model, so we had to assume that the traditional one was it, and we were right.

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I’m not saying I’m very knowledgeable but as your asking for the consensus. I think Bluesky is much better than twitter but it doesn’t properly embody the ideals of the fediverse: that is a decentralized network of instances but it really only has one main instance. It’s also heavily viewed as an alternative to twitter, people who like twitter but don’t like X or the way elon musk is running things so the same people who don’t like twitter go to X and therefore the community isn’t so much better.

But who am I to say this I don’t even use twitter mastadon or Bluesky.

VC financed social media at the start of its enshittification journey. Started interesting with open protocol but seems it has no ambitions of being open.

Deleted my account 6 months ago and haven’t missed it.

It’s just twitter 2.0, may as well be closed source, and it’s a joke to call it decentralized. I’m only on there because the community I keep up with is mostly on there, but the site is literally unusable without the blocklist feature, which of its own is incredibly easy to abuse. It was far better when it was almost entirely a leftist space, before the big twitter exodus of liberals.

Mastodon’s looking far better on the casual usability front lately so maybe folks will start moving over there soon.

Works fine. Most of the artists I followed from twitter moved there. and its quite a nice place.

certainly more hospitable than the nazi platform, that’s for sure.

It’s not compatible at all. And bots acting as bridges isn’t compatibility.

As for self hosting an instance that is federated with the official Bluesky instance, you will only be able to do that in your dreams. You can self host your own PDS though.

Bluesky is the most centralized decentralized platform

First let’s kill X, that’s reason enough to use it for now. At least you’re still supporting more open protocols

As far as I know Bluesky protocol is open-source but not its main app. Also, there are several apps available to use Mastodon. Additionally, note that Bluesky uses the AT Protocol (developed by Bluesky) while Mastodon uses ActivityPub (W3C standard) which is more friendly for third-party devs.

As far as federation is concerned it’s still mostly centralized with Bluesky while Mastodon is fully federated.

Something I personaly like as well with Mastodon is that the feeds don’t use algorithms.

It’s still for profit, not federated and closed source so honestly I don’t know why it’s being discussed here

used it for a bit but just got bored so deleted my profile.

It turned out to be a Twitter clone from ten years ago and I realized I didn’t need that any more. If I didn’t need to reach some people who cannot overcome the hurdle the fediverse proper puts up before being enjoyable, I would not be using it today. But media popularity post-Elon-Twitter and relative ease of setup have given the platform relative heft. But it’s not open and not really federated so it’s masquerading and we don’t really want you know whose money is paying the bills behind the scenes either. If anything, the fediverse can learn from Bluesky a thing or two about onboarding people who cannot be asked to invest the time to make Mastodon enjoyable. It will take time, much more time, to get people, especially non-techy ones, to the new normal of being your own algorithm. I see Bluesky as a stepping stone in that direction that will survive in its own niche.

On the same note, how is the interoperability between threads and the Fediverse nowadays?

the closest thing to “compatible” is the bridge which is sort of creates a bot account on the other network that copies the source toots/¿blues?

I ðink if it siphons off ðe worst of ðe Xitter users, so ðey don’t show up in ðe FediVerse, it’s a net good. A sort of self-imposed, centralized prison.