Oh shit oh fuck I think we’re about to go to God Valley oh-shit

What did you think of this week’s chapter?

One Piece will be on break next week luffy-exhausted

  • Llituro [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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    1 month ago

    Ida is the best. I’m a fan of her refusal to back down on looking out for Loki, on advocating for his right to be alive, even his right as a child to be kept safe by adults, even strangers.

    I think that Shaky probably becomes empress due to Rocks winning Gloriosa in a Davy Back Fight not long after this point.

    I really enjoyed this one. I really liked the way Roger and Garp looked like Ace and Luffy.

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        1 month ago

        i mean i think he’s kind of fucked from the failed infanticide. i think at some level he definitely learns to appreciate some people and creatures. it’s like, what’s luffy if literally no one loved him from rip.

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        1 month ago

        Loki calling Ida a gold digger is probably a learned behavior from living with Estrid’s family for so long (also yeah, being yeeted as a newborn didn’t help)

        I like the Loki, Luffy parallels in how they become enamored by pirates, imagine how different things would be if Rocks took Loki (but I would assume Harald wouldn’t allow it, so Rocks made it easier for Loki by beating the shit out of him).

  • hello_hello [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    What I most enjoyed about this chapter is the new characterizations we get of both Roger and Rocks. Roger embodies a lot of the traits that Luffy has but also is his own person (hot blooded youth chasing after women and picking fights for the sake of them). Rocks is similar to Blackbeard but I doubt Blackbeard would have refused Kaido’s proposal to force Harald to work with them.

    The theme of inherited will in One Piece is strong and both Luffy and Blackbeard are inheriting the wills of Roger and Rocks but also still having their own distinct personality.

    • Red_sun_in_the_sky [any]@hexbear.net
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      30 days ago

      Yeah they were really far apart. Roger didn’t understand the gravity until he found the one piece. Rocks also knew the gravity of the situation but was too early.

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      30 days ago

      With Luffy/Roger being historical parallels but wholly different characters it really feels like their common dream is some sort of natural conclusion to reach based on their personalities and values which is cool.

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    The rocks lineup is the hardest panel so far. Also rocks seems to know way too much than any one else in the plot. What fruits is he talking about? Are they same fruits he wanted from god valley? This brings into question whether blackbeard knew the same. Or is it like a legend passed down to generations like the nika thing.

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      Rocks’ motivation is sooo interesting. Literally all we know is that he’s aware of Imu and wants to topple the WG, but it doesn’t feel like it’s entirely for self interested reasons.

      One of the fruits is definitely the one that Loki ends up eating and the other is likely the one from God Valley because I can’t think of another reason he’d have to go there although we still don’t know if that was the Nika fruit. Blackbeard also had a deep knowledge of devil fruits to specifically look for the darkness fruit so I wonder if there’s some sort of combination that’s important

      • Red_sun_in_the_sky [any]@hexbear.net
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        25 days ago

        Here’s the kicker though, the fruits everyone wants in the egghead god valley flashback seemed to be the paw one and the dragon one. Unless oda just lied and added the gomu fruit or loki’s fruit, I don’t see what fruits rocks is after.

        As for his motivations, he seems to be the most lucky guy cause he just steamrolls into these scenarios. But it could also be about how these slave owner class or imu are sort of paper tigers.

        • drinkinglakewater [he/him]@hexbear.netOP
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          21 days ago

          Oh right I forgot that we already know what fruits are at God Valley! But something brought the Rocks pirates there so if he didn’t have bad information maybe there was another reason

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            21 days ago

            It was definitely the fruits that were the prize. But knowing more about rocks, its also plausible that he wanted to do something to the upper echelon celestials there.

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        30 days ago

        I still don’t know what Loki’s fruit is ?! But if rocks was looking for it and Blackbeard went for 2 different fruits, that is a puzzle.

        Even then knowing about the nika fruit is pretty specific. Very small number of people know that. By that estimate rocks is a huge threat to slave owner freaks.

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          Oda is for sure saving Loki’s fruit for a big reveal!

          Rocks knew about Imu so knowing about the Nika fruit isn’t too impossible. I think Rocks wants two fruits for some specific reason, but Blackbeard went after the darkness fruit because he figured out it could let him steal fruit powers and took Whitebeard’s as a way to test that.

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    1 month ago

    More interesting Rocks tidbits from this chapter. Most interesting to me is his kinda Luffy-like reaction to Kaido suggesting they force Harald to do something.

    “Elbaf is the key to taking down the Holyland”

    angel-biblical

    • hello_hello [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      Most interesting to me is his kinda Luffy-like reaction to Kaido suggesting they force Harald to do something.

      Rocks did win all of his crew members through Davy Back fights. Everyone on his crew is there because of the pirate code and shared interests. I think Rocks has a red line on forcing people against their will to join him because he’s a worshipper of Davy Jones and would rather win Harald’s heart rather than attack him (which he possibly might not win, Rocks pirates are strong but I don’t think they’re go to war with Elbaf strong).

      TL;DR I think pirates and marines to Rocks are fair game but people outside of that aren’t forced to join him.