I agree with that, it just seemed like we were making delineations in groups of people who were produced by situations versus those that weren’t when basically any subculture can be described in terms of being produced by systems, and I think anyone can be criticized but likewise every case of groups of people being produced should be analyzed at a systemic level as well. I’m not just saying it to be a pedant, I think that it’s a critical element of rehabilitative justice that most people on a board like this hopefully find pretty uncontroversial.
Yeah, fair, the point is that the reasons that caused the group to exist should be examined.
I agree with that, it just seemed like we were making delineations in groups of people who were produced by situations versus those that weren’t when basically any subculture can be described in terms of being produced by systems, and I think anyone can be criticized but likewise every case of groups of people being produced should be analyzed at a systemic level as well. I’m not just saying it to be a pedant, I think that it’s a critical element of rehabilitative justice that most people on a board like this hopefully find pretty uncontroversial.