• Kuori [she/her]@hexbear.net
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          2 years ago

          society didn’t make them do it, but it did train them to believe that it’s acceptable

          both the men in question and society as a whole share in the blame

          • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]@hexbear.net
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            I think that people participate consciously in social trends, not unconsciously.

            There have been people I’ve been attracted to but have not even flirted with because they were 19 or 20, and it’s important for their social development and balance to have someone to date who’s close to them in age (and a mumber of other things).

            There was someone I was reluctant to get involved with because they were 7 years older than me, but that was balanced out by other factors like emotional stability.

            When men are dating women much younger than themselves, it means there are fewer women for men of that age to date, and it’s a sort of domino effect where you end up with very young men and very old women being the most alone.

            Age gaps are a very close proxy for patriarchy. Less than 4 years and you can write it off as "maybe boys mature a bit slower. Biology defines a range of possibility and a few proclivities, and the shape of society does most of the guiding. But what is culture if not the sum total of our personal selections? For a very long time, children have grown up with peer groups mostly just a few years in each direction. I think people know when something crosses outside that dynamic, and I think people know that a relationship like that is more transactional than loving.

    • autismdragon [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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      2 years ago

      I love how people just took this entirely arbitrary made up rule and said “yes this is an absolute moral law and you are ontologically evil predator man if you break it”. Its so silly to me.

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        2 years ago

        nobody thinks this it’s just a general idea people made up, imo it’s too strict for older ages and not strict enough for younger ages. a lot of is common sense, like a 30 yo and a 20 yo is objectively creepy

        edit: usually objectively creepy

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          Thats about the age gap between me and one of my two my girlfriends (the other is much closer to my age). I’m autistic so I relate better to people younger than me and am developmentally delayed “maturity” wise. And I dont have a career or family or anything so I’m not in a significantly different “life stage” than her. Ive been very careful to be sure there’s no power dynamic issues between us and I’m confident there isn’t.

          Idk, I’m against hard and fast rules, I agree that large age gaps between adults CAN have problems I just dont think they automatically do, and I think at some point we need to respect the agency of the young adult and stop infantilizing them. My girlfriend gets seriously personally offended by these conversations.