I just think we could be putting that correct info into the same propaganda techniques that evil people use to convince people to hate and work themselves to death.

Like if you can trick someone into hating their peers, surely you can trick them into loving them?

I don’t need their permission for them to accept the truth

I don’t know what this means? That sentence doesn’t make any sense. How would you require permission for someone ELSE to accept the truth?

And if you think this is a game of consent, you’ve already lost.

I never said anything about consent.

Delusional people with their “beliefs” is how he got into this mess in the first place. They need to be the first to go.

Okay again, if you want to threaten to murder people that’s fine, but DON’T DO IT TO THEIR FACES! Like he can hear you in here! Someone saying “I think you should be the first to go” is not going to make them change their minds!

Democracy depends on teamwork. All of us working together, caring about each other and such.

Yeah. And part of that caring means deprogramming people, using positive propaganda, talking to people, convincing them of things, arguing.

[Homer Simpson’s Brain Voice]: “People can be influenced to believe things by their peers, or techniques such as propaganda.”

Whatever you’re doing, going around calling people traitors and “the enemy” and saying “they should be the first to go”, is the exact opposite of propaganda that helps us. It is propaganda that hurts us. Capitalists pay people to do exactly what you are doing right now, because they’re cunning enough to know it hurts us.

Okay but don’t go around calling people “the enemy” to their faces if you want them to accept this truth.

Like that is basic psychology. If I were an authoritarian or fascist dictator that wanted to poison and sabotage the people’s movement, I’d pretend to be one of them and act like an asshole.

Let’s be real. The US govt dropped the ball on internet propaganda. They left it wide open and didn’t touch it because the people in charge were old, spoiled and out of touch. To paraphrase Andor, they got so fat and satisfied that you could walk in their house and spit on their food and they’d never even imagine it.

Now it’s fully under the purview of Russia, China, and a handful of powerful corporations. Any attempt by America to retake control will be too little too late.

Lookin fer’ birds to eat.

Source - Ima shark.

I feel like they should stop calling them “settlers”. “Settler” implies the little villagers in Civ or Catan, pioneering untamed lands.

These people are invaders. They’re invading someone else’s land. I don’t know where this “settler” word came from but it doesn’t make sense to me and I don’t like it.

Who the fuck asked them to do that anyway? Aren’t they supposedly a left wing government?

Looks like a meatshtable.

Yes, because you’re claiming that anyone who doesn’t fall in line with your Orwellian “five minutes hate” is a traitor.

No, I’m not. I just said that this post was likely Russian propaganda. That’s it.

Maybe you should engage in some critical reflection instead of repeating whatever imperialist genocidal powers tell you to think.

I do deny your assumption that anyone who isn’t slobbering over US boots must automatically be licking Russian boots

You just posted a quote from Goering in response to me suggesting that a post that decries both parties for “Hostility to Russia, Iran and China” is probably Russian propaganda.

You sir, are the bootlicker.

Why would anyone want Mao to wake up? The fuck kind of genocide denialism is this?

Mostly because of Qaddafi.

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No, my comment was about Russia influencing the world into trying to not hate Russia, Iran and China.

Then the guy above me replied something about the Iraq war.

Motherfucker, what the hell did that even mean?

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No, this stuff is Russian:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Research_Agency#Timeline_of_the_Internet_Research_Agency_interference_in_United_States_elections

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/russia-troll-2020-election-interference-twitter-916482/

Why are people on Lemmy so keen on denying this simple fact?

Yes, the CBC has been filling me with Canadian propaganda that says shows like Corner Gas are actually quality entertainment.

What does your comment have to do with my comment?

I’m not from the USA. Russia is absolutely trying to create problems in the USA though, and the rest of the west:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Research_Agency#Timeline_of_the_Internet_Research_Agency_interference_in_United_States_elections

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/russia-troll-2020-election-interference-twitter-916482/

Hostility to Russia, Iran & China

Now we have to guess which country’s propaganda machine is responsible for this post.

It’s Russia. It’s always Russia.