Semi related but it’s actually so irritating how I have to go through life where my value as a human being is decided by how much money I make, how many girls I get, how successful I am when I could not care less about any of that, but I will get judged severely for it if anyone “finds out” that I’m not successful in… things I don’t care about…

Like why is that my value to people? I don’t want to have kids with you, you don’t have to live my life, if it’s fun and rewarding being around me why is that not enough? It seeps in even to progressive speech where people will say “clearly he gets no women” like that decides their value as a person. Very cringe. Also don’t forget to downvote for minimizing male loneliness as men can’t get women for the 9999th time.

Yes, they are, but I can still call someone a bad parent if they have a kid knowing they will have no time to raise them. I can simultaneously believe they are at fault for not raising their kids, and that society should do more for kids…

me having kids knowing I will not have time to raise them but it’s somehow everyone else’s fault?

Uhh? I don’t agree with them that it’s that big of a deal but he did a lot more than being an idiot, he tried (and almost succeeded) to kill a petition that many people dedicated months of their life to because he’s a narcissist who refuses to change his opinion, and he would very clearly do it again if given the chance. I would say pitchforks are justified.

Lol that’s hella awesome

I just figure if I do have kids, there are very few things that will be better than I have now. It’s not really fear just I don’t want my kids to live through the worst weather/shortages/pollution ever + companies being better than ever at trying to manipulate people and suck their life away.

Yeah it’s definitely testosterone :/ just pure monkey brain neuron activated, there’s not really any thoughts besides “I am so unbelievably in love with them” until you’re snapped back to reality…

I think its just a “this was in there before so it must go back in after im done using it,” since it’s only when it’s fully empty that changes.

I’m always surprised to see people defending that kind of language, I’ve generally got a positive response explaining why it’s hurtful, but why try to divide us? I hate that women have to deal with these weirdos too, why am I being grouped with them when I’m only trying to help?

All it takes is hearing stories or knowing someone personally who just gets flooded with creeps and you realize this isn’t an overreaction. One of my not super close friends changed their name on Facebook because of weirdos trying to do “”““light””“” stalking constantly. It seems super weird and antisocial of women until you get the full story.

I guess I’m just not reading the literal exact words they wrote, but interpreting what they likely meant was “no one (in the large pool of people I have tried dating) is looking for a meaningful relationship.” It’s like psychoanalzying someone after they got dumped for saying “women are evil” and saying “omg this guy is an incel!” He’s venting about a negative experience, not debating that women are all trash humans. Making generalizations because you’re upset doesn’t make you a bad person or an incel or…

E: also sounds like you’re assuming the worst of some random dude on the internet rather than just seeing him as someone who’s upset or in a bad situation.

If you’ve never run into the situation of living somewhere that everyone seems to only care about themselves I’m glad for you, but that absolutely does happen. I’m a pretty sociable person and moving from 1 city/neighborhood to another, I want nothing to do with “many, many” women around here because they are exactly as he described, there are some cool women too definitely, but the place I used to live had a majority really cool interesting and unique people. If I wasn’t lucky enough to see personally that there are a lot of women who aren’t surface level, I probably would’ve said the same thing as he did. Which is why I said the response I would have is “man that sucks sorry you have to deal with that.”

Just reminding people this handy button exists!

Yeah I think it’s rather women have the same problem dating men, but are much less superficial with other girls

Brutal, yeah I usually skip over people who have those weird qualifiers just out of principle, like yeah maybe this is a negative to you but you’re gonna write off a whole person for that? There are so many amazing people that they’ll never meet just because of some random “dealbreaker.”

“My experience as a man dating has been many many girls are superficial” is in fact bashing many many girls… the ones who are superficial? If a woman said “many many men are superficial” I would say “correct. Sorry you had to deal with people like that.” Not “stop bashing men” when the men they’re talking about are the same people I would complain about!!!

He just implied they were one of the people being complained about, so they got mad and left a mean comment. you’re reading into it too much imo.

Thankfully you are aware enough to write “typically” and know this commenter is an individual person with their own experiences and manner of speaking, so we shouldn’t make assumptions!

Imo that’s just people in general, most have a lot of issues they want to talk through and don’t have people to talk with. After seeing about 9000 online profiles with “pamper me” or “over 6 ft or don’t message” I get the feeling though :>

Most people I’ve met like that seem to either say “I don’t want to think about it so I’m not going to” or “yeah I probably should…” Most actual change I’ve gotten is just saying “if going vegan is too much, just try eating a little less meat, and try to avoid beef and pork” since that’s an easy path forward

Rinse, delayed start and eco mode are unneeded features? Delay start is one of my most used features, many power companies charge less if you use electricity in the middle of the night. Rinse is incredibly useful for if water got stuck on/in some dishes, and eco mode saves power and water. How is a high-end dishwasher not having things that many people use daily “a nothingburger?”