the “name the trait” argument is so well known vegans just call it “ntt”. they’re not here in good faith; they think they have a gotcha.

it takes MUCH more plants to feed animals to then feed humans.

most of the plants fed to animals are parts of plants we can’t or won’t eat. a great example is soy: we run over 4/5 of the global crop through an oil press and extract what we want, and feed the leftover plant matter to animals. no more plants are harmed in this process, and we conserve resources by getting food back from the animals.

And yes, it’s ok to kill plants because they do not feel pain

you can’t prove this

Killing animals for taste pleasure is morally wrong

no one does that, anyway. but even if they did, what is wrong with it? eating animals is fine.