They’re telling you to pay or leave. I just don’t get why you think it should be free - who is paying for it?

Because matrix is an open ecosystem, most companies that use it just deploy a server and then contribute nothing back to the spec (be it funding or code). Individuals seem to be in the same boat.

Like, I’m not trying to be dense, here - what is the correct path? Where is this money supposed to come from? (I’m genuinely not trying to incite an argument with this comment; I’m just passionate about the Matrix spec and am frustrated with the responses to this post)

And please don’t give me the “user donations will be enough” drivel - I’ve been donating (a small amount) to the matrix foundation for years, even though I run my own server and don’t rely on them for any infra, and know quite well how many users are with me in the lowest tier of contributors room. Spoiler: it’s less than 300.

Or people could support the community by making an account there? Community servers list here.

That’s only on their server, you can send whatever you want on your own.

Well, that’s literally the point - the majority of costs for them are hosting related, so they’re trying to push people to use their own or other servers, which is overall better for the health of the federated network.

It’s not enshittification if you were never paying for it/supporting in the first place, lol.

Please note that I wasn’t passing judgement with my comment, I’m just stating that it will happen with pretty much all Linux distributions.

For example, when upgrading major Debian versions, the same will happen - but you’ll usually get thrown into a full screen TUI with interactive buttons asking you how to proceed. So it isn’t really possible to leave the system in a non-functional state.

Definitely check out a different, stability first distro. However, note that you will then have the problem of software being old when you want a new feature!

New optional dependencies also happen in other distributions, just happens a lot less as they aren’t rolling release distributions.

Learning to parse terminal output for what’s relevant is a good and sometimes necessary skill.

I’ve been using arch for almost a decade, and haven’t had the system break.

I also don’t use aur helpers as I don’t like or trust them - I do tend to read PKGBUILDs before using them.

Still shocked that OP thought a new opt-depends was “lost in pages and pages of changelogs”.

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That’s because most of them are playing F2P video games on their mobile devices.

Not trolling at all. I’m a game developer, so I was curious to hear about instances of game devs using kernel level anticheat to harvest people’s personal (and identifiable) data to sell to data brokers.

Glad to know there aren’t any examples of it outside of people screaming about capitalism - which is, let’s be honest, quite indicative of the Lemmy experience these days.

So by that logic we shouldn’t be downloading any precompiled binaries from the net - they could all be spying on us!

Can you name an instance of a game company doing that?

Good. The fault is absolutely on Epic for not putting in proper confirmation dialogues for spending resources tied to real world currency.

And, as a former f2p/mobile game dev, I don’t buy the argument of “we didn’t know that would happen!”. They absolutely knew, and were trying their luck.

Thing is, they most likely made a lot more in erroneous purchases than what they have to pay in reimbursements (think people accidentally pressing a button, making an erroneous purchase, then choosing to “live with it because the amount was small anyway”)… So, in the long run the deceptive practice probably paid off for them.

Though, I hope this lawsuit dissuades them from trying it again.

Disclaimer: I know nothing about Epic’s finances, so any assumption made above is just that: a baseless assumption, backed only by the fact I’ve had many similar experiences.

Poor Crytek… They worked /ended up working all night long and through a holiday.

Say what you want about game bugs and how annoying they might be for players, but teams sacrificing like this to fix a mistake is something I’ll always have sympathy for.

Hope they can get some rest 😅

Completely reasonable

It’s not about how easy it is to compile, my first point in my original comment was that they actively maintain an engine for Linux.

The install base is too low right now. Hopefully as our numbers grow we’ll have enough market impact to warrant pushing other store fronts.

Fortnite is great for Epic, but their debacle with Apple kind of proved that one popular game isn’t enough to push the public off one store front onto another.

Totally made up, meant it more as a “this is my ballpark estimation of what their Linux player base would be” - though I agree I worded it poorly. I don’t know what % of Epic Games users would play on Linux if given the chance.

I’m editing my original message, sorry about that!

Here’s a different take, as a game dev:

Epic actual employs quite a few people who work with Linux. The Unreal engine (and even, to a certain degree, editor) has native support for Linux.

The reasons they’re not including Linux support in their store front are two fold:

1. There aren’t enough pure Linux users to matter, and whatever percentage of their userbase would use Linux isn’t going to be large enough to make a dent^[1].

2. The only serious Linux user base in gaming relates to the Steam Deck, a product that pushes a rival (and the dominant) store front.

While Valve’s move to push Linux gaming is brilliant for us gamers, it also kind of cements us in their camp.

There is absolutely no reason for Epic to support Linux in anyway, and it absolutely supports their bottom line to attack it.

And, no, it isn’t because of any David v. Goliath tale of a little guy standing up to a brute: it’s because a fellow giant has decided to ally itself with Linux, and all of us have - invariably - been shuffled into their camp.

I think the Epic Games Store has a place in this world as a niche storefront with limited visibility but higher access to sales profits as a result of that.

They’ll never grow to the size of Steam, and that’s okay. The largest storefront in the world supports Linux not just on its platform, but by developing tools for everyone that makes Linux gaming viable. That is enough, IMO.

~[1] Edit: I was throwing around a made up 0.1% number earlier to indicate what I thought the number’d be - wasn’t meant to be factual, and was poorly worded, so I removed that.~

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Those all sound shitty - granted, I’m pretty sure I don’t have Copilot on my system, but maybe it didn’t ask me during the upgrade? Either way - my original point still stands: all of these seem just as bad as Win10 (to me, a person who barely used either).

Don’t get me wrong, I’m really glad people are joining us on the Linux bandwagon, it just seems like the reasons for making the switch are almost arbitrary. Another way of putting it would be: "This is what finally pushed you over? ‘Copilot’?"

Anyway, regardless, I’m happy that people are making better choices - regardless of the reasons for doing so!