One side is fascist and deporting anyone and everyone, not to mention the coup and anti science that is going to kill so many people. I could go on and on about the differences between them.

Just because rich and powerful people have been successful at controlling our politicians doesn’t mean both parties have the same goals.

All political parties and system are susceptible to corruption.

If nothing but leftists and progressives won every election going forward, some of them would end up being influenced by lobbyist and special interest groups. Whether it be through bribery, gifts, blackmail, threats of violence, promises of more jobs or whatever.

I disagree

So you don’t notice any differences now that Trump is in office?

So if I ask if you are on Trump’s side or Harris’ side you would say both sides are the same…

Seattle’s current city attorney is a trump backing Republican who was elected all because Seattle at the time was too scared of a candidate who once talked about abolishing the police

Election results say otherwise

But she lost because voters were convinced she ran on that leftists policy. Whether she actually did doesn’t change the intentions of the voters.

This is another good example of leftist policies causing an election loss. Even in a place as blue as Seattle.

Before Obama, Bill Clinton won two terms in a row.

Bill Clinton is not progressive. This would indicate the two term win wasn’t related to the progressive stance.

There are plenty examples of progressives winning primaries and losing elections. And progressives politicians are pretty rare to begin with. This shows how few American voters actually lean left.

Hillary stole the primary from Bernie because she had invested in the DNC for her own self gain, sure. But that doesn’t mean Bernie would’ve won the election.

It’s a popular opinion on lemmy that democrats should’ve known that Hillary couldn’t beat Trump. Yet she got the popular vote.

This is another example of lemmy not reflecting what actual voters choose.

I realize that is a popular opinion here on lemmy.

But, you don’t seem to realize that lemmy doesn’t reflect what American voters vote for.

The 2016 and 2024 elections have shown us that Americans would rather let Trump win than vote for a woman.

AOC isn’t popular enough outside of her fan base to win a national election.

How do you audit them without revealing national security secrets?

I could understand why foreign actors would try to manufacture consent to force the pentagon to reveal what they’re using their budget on.

It performative. It’s becoming too obvious even to republicans that Trump is owned by Russia.

They’re making these public statements so their propaganda machines have something to use to claim Trump isn’t owned by Russia.

“bOtH sIdEs R sAmE”

There is definitely OEM brands of oil

Manufacturers absolutely make profit selling parts for maintenance. That’s why dealerships only use OEM parts.

How do you know?

Ive seen these disinformation campaigns here on lemmy coming from .ml and hexbear primarily.

Why all the whataboutism?

Every election cycle there is a non zero number of people that get tricked into voting against their own best interest. That’s a valid thing to call out and be angry about.

Just because that commenter pointed that out doesn’t mean he doesn’t also get angry about all the other things you’re “whatabouting” about.

You have to vote for the lesser of two evils in order to get a chance at changing the election system.

The GOP are trying to take away voting rights. Not the Dems.