No I said if you come in with a countersrgumrnt or series of counterarguments to a researcher’s ideas you need to come in with citations or resesrch that is more rigourous or has more subjects or both than the researchers’. If you have ANYTHING that you can cite to twerk in her?! Please do it. NEVER bbe afraid to prove others wrong when you have the citations to do it.

I cant make ANY effective counteraguments against this lady even though I do disagree eith her in some things because

1. I have no degree , award, or tutelage in the fields of gender studies or biology , or whatever else field is covered in the artcile.

2. I have no research I can cite to shut her up.

…So she has won an eternal victory over me and pretty much. everyone else here until I csn prove otherwise. Or until anyone else proves her wrong

Well they probably u should have added a warning that ‘it was abnormal for even a woman to be all fine and therefore we NEED to extend the bar to abnomal lengths’

veery bad. I oost 900 dollars cause of them…

Ah sorry damn I forgot to add I dont buy from lem’s shoes. Ever again.

That.

This That. Tit Tat. 😋👍

the funny thing is tha tpeople have been ssying its the end times for millenia…and yet stiill…

it probably depends on what the scientist is researching

So if a scientist is a weapons researcher or a scientist who mentions that we oughta make poor people poorer they probably wont have a lot of fans amongst the people theyre walking amongst when theh move from place to place. But theyd probably have a lot of pig body guards to follow them paid by the government.

…Ah! I just understood. Thanks.

Its so …unusual that they would do that. Why would they do that anyways?

but its the truth.

Who in the their right mind give a damn about something or someone that doesnt give a damn about them?

If socialists actually put in A LOOOT of effort to demonstrate that they gave a damn about the disenfranchised people they come into contact with then it would certainly convince much more people to also become socialists too, right?

I feel that with humans what you give is what you get.

This is why so many people are incressingly becoming disenfranchized by modern societies , cause the capitalist system , governmenral officials and representatives are decreasingly working to benefit most of proletariat. The second the people raise enough of a ruckus the bourgeoisie begin enabling the people to have more freedoms , treats , bread and circuses . We saw this hppen in the 1950s in nirth america and in the 1960s in europe , and the in the 1980s in europe. And the majority of people in turn start loving capitalism again. This is a cycle that has happened throughout history. b

An will happen again and again until the people choose to break our current system and FINALLY create egalitarian, humanistic , and communistic societies once and for all.

Ya youre right. Apparently in some Oceania tribes in the past and even in India surprisingly non-binary genders were accepted by most people of those societies. I do remember reading an archaeological study where they examined the skeletons of men and women who died violent deaths in the neolitihic era and they found that surprisingly practicslly all prehistoric tribes had men AND women (and probanly non binary people too) who died violent deaths through murder, warfare, and through animal hunts that went wrong where the animal overpowered and charged deep into the person with so much force that it shattered the person’s bones in almost equal numbers.

I think it was capitalism and feudalism actuallt are the things that played bigger role than religion in creating the patriarchal, rigidly conservative and ‘shameful of sociosexuality and expression’ societies thatt most of us live in today . I feel that the bourgeoisie of both of these eras knew that they could make it easoer to make more slaves , moake more soldiers, and more easily control the disenfranchised members of the proletariat if they repeatedly drilled deep into us that that is how our societies oughta run and how we should view gender and we chose to go along with it. It was a decision that has been to our detriment…

And dont get me wrong, I know that religious extremism has caused the needless death, ostracizions, alienations, and suffering of billiins of peoples , ESPECIALLY non-males. Though personally I feel it is actually that class warfare that has always been more important than religious warfare within a society and even between different societies in spurring these barbaric things we did to each other. I feel that the bourgeoisie simply knew that they could use religion as just another tool to cause control over us AND to cause conflict between different members of the proletariat class… But I dont view religion as THE almighty factor that has led to the world we have today. I see the biggest factors as our complacency to accept the bullshit that the bourgeoisie keep on telling us AND the existence of the bourgeoisie. Even in neolithic era people had religion for the most part, not the massive abrahamic religions we see today but rather things like paganism , animalism, odinism, things like that . And these religions were not able to prevent humans from eventually saying ‘Screw it ! I know we’re all very differemt but , let’s work together and build together to create large agricultural societies’ . It is simply when agricultural societies began to form with many slaves and soldiers did a few members of the proletariat start to realize that they can create dynastic monarchies that hold the majority of society with an iron grip through tricknology , cunning wordplay, and displays of militant and even genocidal bravado. And with the creations of these numerous bourgeoisies and their many bribed pig bodyguards did the creation of patriarchal society come into existence since men were seen as the more violent , more militant and ‘stronger’ of our species so these men were also seen as useful tools to use by the bourgeoisie to keep non-males in check. And with the creation of a patriarchal , dictatorship of the bourgeoisie which we still live in today so did we FINALLY see the binary model of gender. Yet another tool for control by the bourgeoisie. which theyve used to tell non-males that they have to always be ‘subjugated’ to their male counterparts AND to tell women that the only way a woman can become a '‘tRuE wOmAn’ s by ‘sTArtIng A fAmiLy’ and ‘DoInG AlL ThE HoUsewOrK aNd ChiLd CaRe FoR hEr MeN’ and to always ‘tUrN yOur Kid InTo AnoThEr NatiOnaLisTic SlavE Or SolDiEr For thE empIrE’

And yup when you think about it all carefully enough… you start to see how its always been bullshit from the extrremely rich and politically connected minority to control the anger and violence that the majority oughta have towards them to overthrow them and to prevent the creation of a truly egalitarian , equitable, and inclusive humanistic societu rather than the current bullshit capitalistic and feudalistic ones.

the people dont eben want to be organized in any way.

The people dont give a fuck about a society that doesnt give a fuck about them so why would they do ANYTHING to improve it? Pft!

actually youre right. It was only when fuedalistic societies starting forming and and non-males were increasingly seen as. ‘objects to prodice more soldiers , hiers, and more workers’ and were increasingly put under the control of patriarchal men and even non-males who betrayed their own non-male allies did this binary idea become more convenient for the fuedalists to adopt. ANd so…

Thats what they went along with and most of us went along with it.

Back inthe neolithic era there probably wasnt even a rigid classification for gender. If you were born intersex or agenderd you woulsd probably just get treated like which of your genstalia mattered the most or based on what your mother or her mother’s mother said about people who were intersex.

I actually think youre correct and that we oughta rely on such complex models only whhen the person in question is a person with a very complex gender identity since easily 90% or 80% of hukans obviously fall under the easily understandable binary model .

Physics and biology are two very differenr fields.

Physics equation dont care about the livelihood of the object theyre involved in

…The equations of biology do worry about suchbthings . In biology you deal with animate , beings and even with species that are comprised of numerous ither species. Like the human gut’s immune system is comprised mostly of non-human cells interestingly

…Though I do wonder if future research will actually prove to us that the mosaic models of gender have to start being applied to EVERYONE because it turns out that most people fit into all types of genders, and forms of gender expression…

When humanity decides that it is time for us to prioritize other things than bombing and ostracizing Iranians , and dubai chocolates and getting a newer , more gas -guzzling car every year maybe we’ll finally be able to find out…

…but why does it trigger you?

I actuallt saw your first message before it was deleted and I also saw that you didnt cite a single thing to prove your point so thats enough to convince me that you were talking garbage.

Thanks for all those points. I diidnt know about any of that but I can see how. they mitigate the possible eventual enshittification of Lemmy

I like how they probably wont reply to your comment , THUS proving that youre probably correct!

Actually Ill prbably just ask a shoe repair service how often the boots I get will probably need to be fixed

I plan on walking like 10 or 20 KMs in -30 °C weather with these almost every day. Yes in the snow, mud, rain, or ice. Whatever I encounter.