Mister president, a second data breach has hit the shit-talking app

Good luck with that. Courts move slow, by design, to help those in power against those without power.

I usually set up an alias or script to update everything on my system. For example, on Ubuntu, I would do this: alias sysup='snap refresh && apt update && apt upgrade'

And on Arch, I do this: alias sysup ='flatpak update && paru'

Funny enough you’d need to use sudo to run this on Ubuntu, but not in the Arch example because paru being neat

This response is one of the most well thought out, compassionate and intelligent replies I’ve had in this type of back-and-forth online in many years. I’m seriously impressed and I absolutely cannot be angry after reading that.

In general, I get it. I am not fighting against the way you are using anger and hate here. After all, hate and love are intrinsically linked. We can’t have one without the other. I do hate billionaires. I do hate corrupt politicians. I am only cautioning against wishing harm on people like so many are doing in this thread (and in many other corners of the Internet). In a reply to someone else earlier, I mentioned that the county most affected by this is primarily black and voted overwhelmingly for Harris in 2024 - about 32/68 for Harris. That is why I push back in the way that I did. I wasn’t very articulate because I was looking for a debate and I didn’t want to write a whole page as a top-level reply.

It’s not going to be easy for us. It’ll take a very long time. I just… I have this deep unrelenting pragmatic optimism in my heart; I believe most people generally want what’s best for everyone. People caught up in identity politics, hate campaigns, whatever – that’s just someone who’s lost their way and is caught up in a distraction. Social media amplifies these patterns often, as does the news media. It’s painful to watch, and it feels like so many people are caught up in hate, always looking for a victory over a perceived enemy rather than looking for a better world for everyone.

One of the things that radicalized me was hearing a socialist online say (while arguing with a republican or something), “I want universal healthcare not just for me and my loved ones, but for you and yours too. Can’t you see that?”

I’m sure I’ll see you around this network again. Keep being excellent, and thank you.

Well obviously I know that acceptance is healthy, and I’m doing a lot of work lately to focus on that. I still just overall think wishing harm on people is unproductive and unhealthy, even if the other person deserves it. That’s the core of my point. This new point I did pivot to is an example as to why that sort of behavior is unhealthy.

Just defending my apparently-controversial assertion that wishing harm on people in Memphis because Tennessee wound up voting for Trump in the 2024 election is cringe.

What a cop-out. You don’t care about better outcomes for people. You care about winning.

But they didn’t. Shelby County, TN, which is where this plant is, is a blue county that overwhelmingly voted against Trump and the Republicans. It was 36.42% Trump, 61.80% Harris in this county. Shelby county is majority black, and you’re over here giggling that these people are breathing in carcinogens from an AI data center. Hate poisons your mind.

The exact same logic they apply to us, the exact same mental processes that make you dehumanize them in your mind. These things are poison for your mental wellbeing, and serve as a distraction from the real enemies: the ruling class. You will never have a working class movement to rise up against the power of the ruling class and capital with this mindset. This type of thinking is one of the obstacles we must overcome if we are ever going to achieve things like a general strike. But you don’t care about that. You want catharsis, schadenfreude, and to take joy in others’ suffering. For what? What purpose does it serve? You’re not speaking to these people. You’re just shitposting on the internet, spreading rhetoric that keeps the working class divided against one another. When you get a chance to talk to these folks, you should absolutely tear into them for their choices, make them face the impact of what they do, and don’t allow them to be comfortable in their ignorance. But this? Posting online about how you like the idea of people being subjected to carcinogens because they “deserve” it? You realize the neighborhoods impacted by this are primarily black, right? You think they deserve this? Are you for real? Log off and join a protest, attend union meetings, something but whatever this is? Think critically about what you’re doing and saying. Your words have power. Most of the people on this forum are left-leaning working class people. Hate makes us weak.

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Don’t tolerate hate, obviously. Just be above wishing harm on people.

The embarrassing thing is wishing harm on working class people instead of building solidarity

I think you live in a bubble.

Wishing harm on them does less than nothing to help the situation we’re in. It only makes you a worse person.

You have nothing good to say left, obviously, because you’re just attacking my character instead of my point. This conversation is over.

They did not know that, obviously, or they would have voted differently.

No, it’s genuine.

You’re the one missing perspective, friend. Go outside.

This comment is not addressing anything I said at all and can therefore be discarded

Some day the other shoe is going to drop and we’re going to have to continue sharing a country with these people. There is a reason this ideology has spread, and wishing harm on them does less than nothing to change that. You clearly have a strong sense of justice and love in your heart. Why is it a good use of time to wish harm on others?