Eh, I think trying to get an entire instance defederated because of a grievance with a particular community there that they won’t back you up on might well be more effort personally.

Mods can, but also lemvotes exists as a tool for anyone to see it.

Why? To cultivate a high-trust culture.

Well this stuff can just as viably happen on Reddit.

Well this is where lemmy being federalised plays out. On Reddit, a community is basically completely captured by the first-movers if it has the name people are going to look up first. Lemmy allows people to compete with the same name, on different instances - and even on the same instance as the display name can be different to the original URL.

I mean, yeah, some instances will have rules that community moderators must abide by. In that case you could have some recourse. Then if they still back them, you could go on a wide “defederate this instance” campaign!

But at a certain point, is it worth the energy?

I mean I’m quite liberal on it. I know a number of users in my community that downvote a bit, but those users also actually post and have some interest in the subject matter - so I accept it.

But there really are accounts that have zero posts but downvote EVERYTHING.

In regards to people piling on and using downvotes in a form of a brigade attack, similar to review bombing pieces of media… While I dislike this profoundly and find it enormously toxic, it is still within the realm of public expression. If one means to silence it, one means to suppress the freedom for others to express themselves as both individuals and as a group. As much as I find it despicable or toxic in a lot of contexts, I can’t bring myself to justify the act of banning this form of expression in showing discontent. Moderators of communities, particularly with particular topic focuses will need to ban people to deal with spam, abusive behaviour, trolling, off-topic conduct - to ultimately maintain the focus of their community.

It absolutely is in the form of public expression, but if I see someone downvoting all the posts on a community I run - and they never contribute, I will use the powers granted to me as a steward of that community to ban them. Mass-downvoting can be a problem for small communities as it can bury threads.

As for the rest of your post, I simply don’t believe it’s my responsibility in the communities I run, that have particular purposes, to play house to toxic and otherwise repulsive people with behavioural issues because of the societal impacts of social media engendering loneliness and maladaptive behaviour as a type of cope. Most communities will have a topic-focus and need to ban people just on that basis. Or for spam. Or for trolling. Or for abusive behaviour.

Are niche Communities correct for banning anyone who downvotes?

I’ll just speak to this point generally.

Depends on the communities specific focus. Downvote trolls can be a problem for small communities trying to build up as they can successfully bury threads. I managed to discover the serial downvoters on my old lemm.ee communiy and when I banned them (about 5 of them?) it had a huge impact. They didn’t all downvote /everything/ but they downvoted a lot of things, and they had no contribution to their names. Some of the accounts in question literally had no posting history. These accounts just existed to downvote.

Now, I wouldn’t just ban random accounts for occasional downvotes - but if I kept seeing the same names on threads (and they never actually engaged with the community) with no discernable pattern of downvoting - I might.

Depends how interested you are in international content. Netflix has most of that.

So what happens now in regards to Dbzer and Hexbear, if I may ask? That seemed pretty unruly

Piefed speaks to Lemmy instances, yes.

You can import data here: https://piefed.social/user/settings/import_export

No. It was also down to holding them potentially viable for what their users post.

A forum about hamsters shut down.

Hi, sorry to butt in - I keep seeing this community pop up in recent posts. Lemm.ee, the instance this is hosted on is going to shut down at the end of the month. Just curious if you’re aware.

Yes.

https://piefed.social/f/forumverse

This is the feed proper being referred to here.

It’s similar to multifeeds on reddit, except Piefed makes them much more visible and useful for sharing.

I think the real answer is less advocating against Piefed (which is getting some preference thanks to QoL additions for community management, I think), but rather advocate for some of the larger communities moving to Piefed to spin up a whole new instance.

This is happening by the way. Many lemmy communities are making their own instances based on Piefed. And the good news about Piefed is that community transferring is built in, so once larger more supported instances move over, it will be viable for any .social community to transfer over.

Even though I initially started out on kbin when I attempted this on the fediverse (because of its rich feature depth), it was pretty overdesigned in my opinion.

To a degree, but not every lemm.ee community has moved to piefed - and other piefed instances (made by people with active lemmy instances are emerging)

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I’d say under 24h is kinda harsh given I can see small instances get autolocked when the one mod is just on holiday or something for a report about idk, a post being offtopic (for instance)