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  • MotoAsh@piefed.socialtoFunny@sh.itjust.worksTrust me bro
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    2 days ago

    Does it if you know, though…?

    IMO, even involving location and private data in the digital ecosystem that includes a centralized LLM is a very unwise thing to do.

    We both know that LLMs can and will spit out ANYTHING in their training data regrdless of how many roadblocks are put up and protective instructions given.

    While they’re not necessarily feeding outright personal info (of the general public, anyways) in to their LLMs’ models, we should also both know how slovenly greedy these cunt corpos are. It’ll only be a matter of time before they’re feeding everything they clearly already have in.

    At that point, it won’t just be creep factor, but a legitimate doxxing problem.


  • MotoAsh@piefed.socialto196@lemmy.blahaj.zonetrolly rule
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    But what if it’s just a copy of that relation R? Is it the same mind in a new body? Or a new body that’s so utterly similar that it will merely continue on believing it’s the same person?

    I don’t like that philosophy, because it pretends the mind exists outside of the brain.

    Does the difference of the literally unobservable matter? Yes absolutely to the person stepping in to the machine! Sure, everyone else doesn’t have to care, but the teleported person sure probably should care, so that philosophy does less than nothing for answering the question.

    He’s basically saying, 'I don’t care if you die if I cannot tell if the new guy is different.". Saying, “I don’t care” is not an answer.


  • MotoAsh@piefed.socialto196@lemmy.blahaj.zonetrolly rule
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    2 days ago

    IMO, even the digitally sent person could be the original, depending on the philosophical concepts being applied (same ship of theseus style questions). If it’s just the process of reading your atoms to that level of detail that makes you disappear, and the only information that is literally ‘you’ is being transferred over and reconstituted in a similarly one-way-by-function process, it’s almost more of a phase shift to digital and back than a copy. Pretty much just side-stepping matter’s inability to travel without acceleration.

    If the machine is basically ‘digesting’ the person only to send over the results for reproduction, though… that’s definitely a copy. Pretty sure Trek describes their transporters as the latter? They’re definitely killing a bunch of people in that show. ha Though to answer it with any kind of conclusive result, I’d think we’d need a technical description for how it works, and it cannot exist, so… lol



  • MotoAsh@piefed.socialto196@lemmy.blahaj.zonetrolly rule
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    2 days ago

    Y’know, the more I think about free will as a religous concept, the more I’m convinced it’s supposed to be an allegory for how to treat others, like a more convoluted Golden Rule. The source was shifted to “God” simply to make the garbage people that don’t normally care about others hesitate before they just ignore others’ advice on how to treat people.

    The reasoning is pretty simple: Nobody can actually do anything they want because others will interfere. Individuals restrict others’ freedom all the time. If you’re restricting others freedoms, you’re doing an even worse version of judging others. The Bible pretty clearly says to leave such critical stuff that idiots can screw up in God’s hands, because idiots can and will screw it up.

    Same with free will. Peoples’ freedom is, according to religous teachings, a gift from God. They describe such things as “from God” solely because idiots respect their flavor of Sky Daddy over other human beings.

    If it’s actually a gift from God, then it makes little sense that humans can simply remove a gift an all-powerful diety bestows. So… either historic humans are insanely stupid and bad at logic … or it’s actually an allegory for not trying to control others so much.


  • MotoAsh@piefed.socialtoScience Memes@mander.xyzSmöl
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    Definitely wrong, although I do not have a collegiate off-hand understanding of biology to really fully decribe it.

    But it comes down to what does a “cell” mean in biology? Even your case in point specifies an object with many cells in it.

    Cell membranes don’t use simple diffusion to transport chemicals across. That’s the entire point of a “cell”. It’s a defined region that at least attempts to control its own various chemical balances. Cells do have many gates that allow many molecules across, unfortunately including many viruses and prions. Unfortuntely, cell walls are also not impervious to truly toxic chemicals, either, so a “cell wall” still can absolutely break down with minimal effort with the right chemicals. They do attempt to control their own balances though, including basic ionic content. That’s the whole point. The attempt.

    I really have to ask… Why do you think humans aren’t so big on the scale of life? Your perspective really come across as human-centric. Not “bad” by itself, but still wholly incompatible with reality.

    The thing that does change in relation to diffusion at scale is the necessity of circulatory and respertory systems, which is a massive order of magnitude or few increase in complexity than cells.


  • MotoAsh@piefed.socialtoScience Memes@mander.xyzSmöl
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    Try literally trillions. Billions is literally several orders of magnitude less than reality.

    Again, most people literally cannot fathom the scales. Not as an insult, but to point out the literal scale. (god I’m such a millenial with all those ‘literals’, but it’s true…)


  • The result in the end should be an organized series of events, a process, that takes or produces data. The data can be anything from a single number in a calculator, to a text message, to your entire social profile. The process can be anything from basic math, to advanced math (i.e. machine learning, rendering, cryptography, etc), to performing simple operations on that data like shuffling that data somewhere else.

    These processes are stacked on top of each other and utilized with basic logic (if, else, loops, scope, etc) and combined together with a myriad of programming patterns and algorithms, to produce higher and higher orders of complexity, that eventually solve a real-world problem.

    The result is an ever increasing complexity of useful tools and processes that can either solve specific problems directly or at least provide discovery for other useful tools and processes that might.

    It’s translating higher order problems from something understandable at the task level all the way down until a piece of specialized rock that only understands on and off can eventually spit out a meaningful result.

    ok ok electrical engineers get the claim for the last sentence, and plenty of the real-world complexity, but hopefully it illustrates my point that ‘nothing’ is … just wrong. We cannot discount the absolute importance of abstract things. Everything from “imaginary” numbers to completely abstract things like philosophy have real- world consequences. If programming produces nothing, then MOST jobs that aren’t manual labor produce nothing.



  • MotoAsh@piefed.socialtoScience Memes@mander.xyzSmöl
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    Nah. You are assuming a red blood cell is a common size. It’d be like aliens coming to Earth, seeing Humans, and assuming life’s average scale is that of a human on this planet.

    There is a MASSIVE scale of difference between cells of different animals. Some cells can be seen with the naked eye. That doesn’t magically mean other animal cells have to also be large.

    There are entire living organisms that are smaller than Titin. Several species of eukaryotes are smaller than Titin, and they’re single celled orgsnisms by definition. A single celled organism smaller than a human blood cell by an order of magnitude.

    That says nothing of prokaryotes, which are also celled organisms that are multiple orders of magnitude smaller still.

    Again, it’s amazing only because you assume humans aren’t fucking insanely huge. An understandable perspective for sure, but a wrong perspective none the less.


  • MotoAsh@piefed.socialtoScience Memes@mander.xyzSmöl
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    Again, it is amazing … but because we cannot fathom how big it still is.

    I’d give you a Vulkan, “neat, curious even, but not mind blowing”, as to what I mean a truly aware response would be.

    It’s neat, but if you’re aware of the developmental stages of even just human babies, it’s really not surprising nor unique as to how small something with such differentiated parts is.



  • It would depend entirely on how it was phased out. If it’s straight up now totally illegal, they’d have to shut down or change product. If it’s just becoming a restricted chemical, they’d have to attain licenses or some other form of permission and likely find new customers since I doubt you’d be able to sell to the general public.

    I’m sure there are good and bad examples of how governments handled it all throughout history… Even recent history. Which country had the dumbass that basically made extrajudicial and vigilante killings of drug dealers legal? If such a turn happened for my product in such a country, I’d be closing up shop pretty fast if my product was made illegal…

    Cocaine itself would likely be more under the “just shut down” side, since refining plants and stuff is a bit less transferrable of a skill/process than, say, chemistry skills and tools for cooking meth. Though that’s an assumption, because I don’t know the process! Maybe it’d be easy to switch to a different product.




  • MotoAsh@piefed.socialtoScience Memes@mander.xyzSmöl
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    3 days ago

    IMO, this kind of amazement mostly points to humans not really unserstanding how tiny the building blocks of reality are. Even the “massive” protein molecules your body uses with hundreds of thousands of atoms in them, tens of thousands of amino acid chains, can fit many on the tip of a sewing needle.

    Titin has over 30,000 amino acids in it, and barely gets over 1um in length. That’s barely wider than a sharp razor blade’s edge, and they’re orders of magnitude sharper than most knives.

    The scale of the world is crazy, and we are already giants in it.