Isn’t the problem then the abusive power structure, whether it’s built on family/generation/age dynamics or something else, and that saying the problem is “incest” is de-emphasizing the more critical component (that’s already avoided too often)? Not to say that incest is a good thing or even harmless, but to be strategic in framing discussions that may affect how people look at things. Missed the thread header and this might not be the most relevant place to reply, but wanted to get the thought out.

As a man experiencing a lack of friendship, camaraderie, and emotion connection, regardless of fault or cause, the OP reduces that experience to “not getting laid”. That affects me regardless of never actually using the phrase “male loneliness epidemic” to describe anything, of whether I fall into some 100 pages of “exceptions”, or that the post doesn’t explicitly say “those experiences don’t exist”. To say that the OP doesn’t actually communicate that is to simply close one’s eyes to an inconvenient truth of how people work.

Being told something has an impact. Even if it can be rationalized as “not about me”. Even if what was said isn’t what was intended. Even if some comments express support for people like me (and ignoring everyone who doubles down on it). Even if “big boy learns people say mean things sometimes”. What do you think that impact is gonna be here? For someone sharing my experiences who doesn’t stop to dig into this post, I doubt that impact is to move them towards being the sort of healthy, happy person we’d want.

First sentence of the second paragraph literally says “What We Know: [woman’s name] was arrested and charged …”

Na: He’s clearly referring to Niobium. I’m not sure what that has to do with the relationship between a Heads Up Display and this “Department of Housing and Urban Development” thing.

Re post text: For context, Washington state is mail-only voting, so that number would (I assume) be for all votes, not just specifically requested mail-ins. I didn’t see it in the article, but I wonder if that is predominantly “centralized” or “distributed” in nature; i.e. are technically-valid ballots from all voters being incorrectly rejected by the county elections facilities office at different rates across racial lines, or are there other factors like targeted disinformation, education, local infrastructure, or socioeconomics that disproportionately affect Black (or other types of minority) voters that would make them more likely to produce a technically-invalid ballot?

Those might get the same statistic, but would seem to indicate very different sorts of problems and approaches.

To be fair, proper ISO 8601 specifies hyphens as the separator between date elements, and I don’t think I’ve ever seen a XXXX-XX-XX (with hyphens) be used for YYYY-DD-MM. Just XX-XX could perhaps be ambiguous, but fortunately that’s not allowed by the standard, and anyone using just year-day for XXXX-XX is absolutely trolling. YYYY-DDD could have a use, though should really use a separate separator to not sort together IMO. A year-week designation could possibly look like XXXX-XX, but that seems unlikely to just be dropped in that format without context, at least to my western US sensibilities.

Are you perhaps saying that trying to teach an understanding of a concept like place value or carrying is more complicated than just getting the answer to an arithmetic problem? I have no idea why that should be the case, where would you get such an idea anyway?

I’m really not seeing the flow from claiming that basically “selective breeding [some sense of eugenics] could result in biological changes in humans as it does in other animals” to being a proponent for eugenics in either a moral or policy sense. There was an naked counterclaim that it wouldn’t work, but honestly that’s immaterial to my first sentence, and I don’t know that I believe it either. Could you create an overall biologically “better” human? Dubious, if you could define such a thing in the first place. Could you create a human with superior moral or intrinsic value? Definitely not.

It’s certainly a completely bonkers statement to drop out of nowhere. There’s no context given in that article nor in a few others I found, but I don’t think it’s unfair to assume there was some sort of context or trigger.

There was a apparently another statement about abortion and Down’s that IMO just reads like an amateurish attempt at using absolute utilitarianism to make a profound, off-the-cuff observation based on a pretty ignorant set of assumptions. Yes, it’s a stupid statement that makes a pretty generic argument for eugenics with other assumptions, but the core claim of “an action that causes net negative happiness in the world is immoral” is, strictly speaking, not morally indefensible. There is a correcting of facts required, but essentially the same logic is used for the fairly non-controversial (as any abortion, at least) termination of a pregnancy that would only result in suffering and a dead baby. Correcting facts is, I think, much less substantial than correcting thinking.

Is there anything else substantial I didn’t see? To use just this as a basis for a declaration of “open eugenicist”, to me, just dilutes very powerful terminology that I’m sure many people definitely fit.

Also, as a side note, some of the takes in some counter-articles were absolutely wild. If your position is that (even if you don’t recognize it yourself) “Gee honey, I don’t think we’re in a financial position to try for another baby” is eugenics, it’s hard to believe there is actual meaning behind any string of words you manage to get out.

What are the cops going to do? Round here at least, thought crime isn’t yet a thing. It’d essentially be the same as if you said “Sometimes, I want to hurt people”. If you’re actually speaking with a medical professional, what you say is legally privileged information, and AFAIK for the US at least, that continues until there is reasonable belief that you will harm someone or commit a crime.

This totally glosses over the social aspect, but for any legitimate medical provider that shouldn’t be a problem. I don’t want anyone who needs help to be afraid of seeking it.