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Cake day: December 6th, 2024

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  • I went because I was so desperate to get sober I didn’t know what else to do. Years later I still pop in to see some friends. Its a classic case of selection bias (the people who stay).

    There were some interesting figures in the early aa that got drowned out. Bill w himself loved hallucinogens and thought they held promise.

    I hate that courts make people go there. So so so fucked up because its religious, despite what they say.

    I dont know if you could try something else over zoom to sign your court cards like SMART or recovery dharma but my atheist self found both of those more palatable, I even did the facilitator training for SMART.

    Either way, good luck and im sorry youre forced to go






  • I agree with you that its an issue, but surely you see that its a part of human nature to experience some kind of validation when a person / group learns a lesson they could have not learned the hard way by listening or reasoning. The whole leopards eating face thing.

    I dont think its a beautiful part of human psychology but I think its hard to overcome especially when emotions are already high.

    I personally find it sad, but I believe just like in 2016 there’s a bunch of aggressive social media manipulation going on and I see it as people being scammed into believing something in contradiction to their own self interest… And much like an elderly person scammed into handing over money I find it really sad.