It’s not that deep, it’s just people getting banned over downvoting in communities they don’t contribute to. A debate even older than Lemmy
I still also can’t fathom the apparently successful effort to start to split people into “pro AI” and “anti AI” camps.
Yeah, I just don’t get why it’s getting so heated lately https://lemmy.world/post/31072292/17587686
That whole thing got debunked quite quickly https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/49344640/20291854
I went through that thread on LW, PJ didn’t really make that much of a good case for himself
PugJesus already gave a pretty detailed reply that more or less mirrored what I would want to say about it (which Unruffled of course did not respond to.)
Nobody on dbzer0 saw that reply, and even less could respond to it as he’s banned from the instance.
Maybe that’s the piece missing to solve that matter.
This was pretty much my point. lemmy.ml and Hexbear love how their admins behave, and that’s all the admins feel like they need to know. My point was that (a) you’re starting to operate along the same lines, it looks like, and (b) that’s not always a good thing.
Any admins should act upon harassment of one of their users, especially if the admins of the harassers don’t.
I care more about the bullying and fact-free mentality, that big thread with people making up nonsense about the target of the day.
Isn’t that the concept of !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com since its inception?
Every single one of the issues you’ve listed, you’ve reframed it into something different than it was. Neopronouns were never the issue, it was blahaj shielding a transphobic troll from criticism and banning people who complained about them (complained about them while using accepted pronouns, usually while explicitly saying ‘yes I’m fine using people’s pronouns’), purely because the troll cleverly decided to involve neopronouns into the issue. And then pretending that anyone who was on the “enemy” side was obviously a pronoun-hater and that was the entirety of the issue.
That’s your framing of the situation.
An alternative perspective is that the “pronouns cannot relate to imaginary creatures” is gender gatekeeping.
Drag was potentially trolling, but if nobody ever took the bait, nothing would have happened.
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/39039162
We can all yell at him, insult him, nothing needs to be justified
People brought justifications
In some forums, that kind of thing is disallowed. If you make personal attacks or insults, you get mod action
Direct attacks are usually removed
You had your politics but you weren’t dishonestly attacking
I’m am going to be honest with you, I didn’t expect you to make this kind of comments
Cool! Now accuse him of caring way too much about politics, and getting in heated debates about it like a LOSER, speaking as you are from your lemmy.ml address. That’ll make perfect sense too.
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/49571446/20291493
Also, not sure why it’s not okay for dbzer0 to have a “our users” stance while you broadly categorize all .ml users as “losers”
I’ve been following things from afar.
they started jumping into among other places a 4-day-old thread to try to continue the argument.
People who use “New comments” are going to see new comments posted, whatever old the threads are. I use that filter, and I regularly comment on weeks old threads to reply to someone.
Eugene’s comments on the 4-days old thread came up when you mentioned that UM was involved (whey they were not, and you know I’m not a fan of UM), and it was made by another user: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/49344640/20291854
he kept emphasizing that, like I need to treat someone different because they’re an admin, IDK, bow and scrape?
The context is
Good fuckin’ God man. dbzer0, we love you, quit trippin’. Just relax. Not everyone you don’t like or agree with is “abusive.” ( https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/49571446/20248829 )
If you accuse an instance of power tripping, be ready to answer when they reply, otherwise it just seems to be arguing in bad faith.
I had a quick look
Man, you definitely were running some major hostility towards world at one point. I’ll concede that the comment was probably overstating the point, and definitely unnecessarily hostile, but it also wasn’t unprovoked.
I’m not going to go that route again
That is the experience on most of the instances
I’m on the 196 matrix and straight, never had any issue
It’s like all the issues all of a sudden came out at once. The Dragonfucker argument is back, someone has been following me around all day and hectoring me on random topics and just told me UniversalMonk did nothing wrong, they all of a sudden hate PugJesus with a hundreds-of-comments-wild-personal-attacks passion, the “anti-AI troll” banning random people mod is now posting tankie stuff… it’s fuckin’ nuts. It came out of nowhere.
At least the drag and PugJesus issues are related, as that’s why PJ got banned on Blahaj: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/39039162
I pointed this out to you in the !fediverselore@lemmy.ca thread and you acknowledged it: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/49571446/20253309
Not sure why you’re saying it’s coming out of nowhere when you are aware of that link.
People aren’t following you around, they reply to comments you make about the whole situation
The “anti-AI troll” come up due to this comment: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/49571446/20270123
I just had a look at https://ani.social/ front page
Didn’t notice any admin spam
AniSocial got the same issues as EuropePub: ton of noise, 0 purposes and discussion.
Creating another instance wouldn’t solve that issue
Search
Not sure those are needed with the current population
Even on that, he was involved in the 196 forced migration attempt
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/35965565?scrollToComments=true
drama-free
That’s not how I would describe the user
You probably are not aware, but that user is known to be toxic. A lot of the mod action reasons are “be respectful” or “civility”
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/modlog?userId=18071443