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    How disappointed we will all be when all the boomers are dead and it doesn’t solve any of our problems.

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      We’ll just have to see, won’t we?

      Plus, it’s not like the climate will just snap back into place when the boomers are finally too old for their skeleton talons to cling to power. That shit is going to take generations of sacrifice to roll back, if it doesn’t topple civilization first.

      https://www.noaa.gov/news-release/warmest-arctic-summer-on-record-is-evidence-of-accelerating-climate-change

      The whole ethos of the majority of baby boomers seems to have been to raze the forest they got to enjoy behind them (as opposed to planting trees whose shade they’d never sit in like most generations aspire to), and they seem to be having remarkable success in that.

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          The wealthy are savvy but with the boomers gone they lose a lot of their support. Of course they will try to maintain the status quo, but the people will be affected by the material conditions and see the truth. The only thing we have to fear is hate, but MTG, Boebart and Desantis were all elected by Boomers. Young people don’t vote for those idiots. I’m more concerned about Andrew Tate.

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          This isn’t new though, many boomers were the hippies at one point, they had the photocopier, fairness doctrine TV & Radio and liberal attitudes for sex, gender, and civil rights.

          But the same tactics were used to stop and convert many of them, plus around half of them were the same sort of assholes that give them a bad name now.

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      The issues they left behind will last for generations. Funny that anyone could believe this goes away in our lifetime.

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      It’s not about a magic cure that’ll fix everything over night.

      It’s about repairing decades of harm done by a generational mindset that valued wealth acquisition and material possession above every other facet of society. We won’t fix that trauma in one, two, or three generations but it will get better and better with time and distance to boomerism.

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        The values of wealth accumulation and materialism are not at all limited to or even expressed mostly strongly by the Baby Boomer generation.

        The line of thinking that capitalism dies with boomers or that Gen X, Millennials, Gen Z, or whatever comes next will not fully embrace capitalism and will move towards socialism or some other non-competitive society seems pretty naive.

        Humans are a competitive species. Most people want to win. I doubt this mindset dies with boomers.

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          Humans are a co-operative species, same goes for our ape and monkey cousins.

          It is this instinctual nature of working together that enabled us to take down bigger prey, settle new lands, and become the dominant species on the planet.

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            I don’t disagree. That said, would suggest that externally we are cooperative, but internally we are competitive. Even in ape families, there exists a hierarchy generally ruled by the biggest, strongest male.

            Which brings us back to the point at hand. Will humans come together to solve climate change? Or will humans continue to try to win at all costs?

            I can see either as a possibility. But I don’t see boomers dying as a catalyst.

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          The rich are very concerned about the fact that all statistical evidence pointing to younger generations being starkly more socially minded than boomers. Don’t forget that Millennials have lived through a major economic crisis. Just like the Great Depression, that generally makes people realize that Capitalism is bullshit.

          The wealthy are funding massive propaganda campaigns as a result. They are unfortunately making some in roads with young men. But overall I don’t think it will be enough.

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            Don’t forget that Millennials have lived through a major economic crisis.

            Yes, yes we have.

            I’ll be very interested to see how the younger generations age. Anecdotally, I’ve witnessed numerous people go from progressive socialists, to centrist capitalists as they age. Not saying that will continue, only saying this as I’ve seen similar studies that show younger people are more progressive than older folks every 5 years for the past 3 decades. It’s not a terribly new concept, and I’m hopeful that it remains true.

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          I agree! A change of the mindset is generational change at best. In many cases flawed ideologies and poor educational standards are just beeing continued. Yet I want to be one of the naive and think that there will be a new way of thinking and noticeable political change. For the better or the worse…, who knows?!

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      It will solve the problem of their voting habits. They have lead us down this insane path because they are a narcissistic generation. Things won’t be perfect, but we might, just might, start turning things around. If we still can.

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      The next most conservative generation is Gen X. All few dozen of us. Expect those with power to retain it with massive use of wealth to constrain the rules of democracy, rather than numbers of voters.

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      Because that’s how it works, right? When your house is flooded because of a burst pipe, when you replace the pipe then your house is magically unflooded right? I mean of course no reasonable person thinks that, but that seems to be the understanding you’re suggesting. Meanwhile you’re trying to say that if we do repair the pipe and the house is still flooded, rightly acknowledging that the pipe is 100% the cause of the flood is somehow… wrong?

      The facts are that boomers fucked the world up, heavily, and did everything they could to hold onto power and rob the next generation (at least) of their deserved place in the driver’s seat of society, and cleaning up the messes and lessons left over by the boomers will take generations to clean up. The fact that boomer built long-term systemic problem without simple solutions does not mean that the boomers are not entirely at fault or that we aren’t entirely better off without them.

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      They’re smart to balance their checkbooks on the way out. They never let any opportunity to consume go to waste.

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      I dunno, I feel like if I lived through the Black Death and I was there when—at the end of the suffering, surrounded by death—the last plague rat died, I’d take it as a win…

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      And they’re not done yet! It’s also a shame they’ll probably waste the money they’ve accumulated on the worst possible things and people on the way out (fueling the dumpster fire).

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    Just How stupid does one have to be to think all their woes exist with only one generation? There are far bigger monsters alive today in current younger generations (many in millennial) that are far more destructive to our lives and the earth. They’ve seen more $$$ than any boomer and will laugh at you while you live out of a garbage can.

    And you’d still probably be posting stupid memes like this acting completely oblivious to the burning hell around you.

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      You’re framing your indignation from a place of generality. No one thinks that boomers are the sole source of the World’s woes. However, they are the largest generation and tend to dominate discussions surrounding housing and the economy. They also make up a huge portion of the elected officials in North America, and younger generations have had it much harder than boomers ever did. It’s a lie that millennials and gen z have had more money than our parents and grandparents ever did. We don’t have nearly the purchasing power people did in the 50s and 60s.

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        millenials and gen z have far more purchasing power than anyone in human history. The problem is that purchasing power for specific things, like housing, has not experienced the same general trend. But the average person can buy more, say, tvs than people even in the 90s could.

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          Or write in someone you believe would actually be good at the job. Then you don’t have to vote for someone you believe to be unqualified.

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              …as long as choice #3 isn’t apocalyptically bad, right?

              Right?

              That’s only true if everyone believes that, a self-fulfilling prophecy.

              Would really be fantastic to see just once, one time, everyone interconnects on social media and agrees to vote on a third party, as an experiment if nothing else, to finally prove/disprove that theory.

              Funny enough these newer generations have this communicative interconnectivity of the Internet available to them, that previous generations didn’t have, but they don’t seem to use it, instead they just share mene pics/vids, etc.

              Could you imagine the political earthquake though if a third party actually won? Would be glorious to see.

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                The problem there isn’t that we (assuming the US) don’t want third parties, it’s that our voting system encourages party consolidation rather than cooperation. That only gets more true the higher in the government you go.

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                  The problem there isn’t that we (assuming the US) don’t want third parties,

                  That’s not true. People don’t vote for third party because of the self-fulfilling prophecy, but it doesn’t mean they don’t want it. They also want ranked-choice voting.

                  I would advocate to put that self-fulfilling prophecy to the test, even if just as an experiment one time.

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                Choice 1: third party you prefer Choice 2: mainstream party you prefer Choice 3: mainstream party you don’t prefer that gives off apocalyptic vibes

                This is what I was trying to describe. It’s the same old US third party voting trap as always.

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              Then you’ll be the one getting called the leader of two evils

              It’s the violence inherited in the system. (And yes, that’s a Gen-X timeframe related quote (in a deep meta ironic sort of way)).

              AKA, what goes around, comes around.

              But still, it’s worth doing. Better to solve your own problems, versus waiting for somebody else to solve them for you.

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      Click on the site so that your dumbass can see there is a clock for literally every generarion up until the Greatest

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    Keanu reeves is so close to and so engrained in gen x culture that I think it’s unfair to label him a boomer

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    Gentle reminder that the whole generations thing is made up.

    But true that many of these folks and older hold high positions of power, which is probably the cause for the clock.

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      Crazy that you’re the only person I’ve found in the thread that realizes this. Generational theory largely accepts that the concept of monolithic generations is reductive. Yes, people born in and around the same time can have shared cultural experiences, but the idea that those are what purely shape you ideologically or that you behave as a component of a monolith are ludicrous. And then there’s subgenerations, microgenerations, etc. Just look at the sociological research of Karl Mannheim for a very complex discussion on the topic.

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          Generalizing is fine and a useful tool in certain situations. In others, it’s not, and can in fact be very harmful. It’s also sometimes good to explain why you support one versus the other in a particular scenario. Y’know…because that’s how conversations work.

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      I agree that battle of generations is silly, but there is still shared experience and trait in each generation. I used to think that the stereotype on boomers are greedy because they grew up in relative wealth is stupid, because my parents grew up poor in a third world country and did not benefit from Western wealth. However, they emigrated and travelled across the world and earning more than they would have in our home country.

      Eventually, I realised that not all boomers are greedy, but some are materialistic. My parents are willing to share but they still have scarcity and hoarding mindset; even refusing to throw 20 year old clothes that are tattered.

      Western boomers benefited from post-war economic boom and peace. Non-Westerners did not (post-colonial states in the mid to late 20th century suffered from constant sociopolitical strife) but the economic mobility afforded the third world citizens to migrate and move up the social ladder thanks to globalisation. However, the globalisation has, unfortunately, become not beneficial to younger generations because of outsourcing of traditional jobs and automation. And, unfortunately, this is leading to nativism and xenophobia.

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    What kind of psycopath counts generation death as a good thing. All interesting humans dead and you take it as an achievement.

    Stop crying on the past. Stop blaming past on generations. Start learning from past generation mistakes, and thank them for having you.

    Because as a new generation we’re going to make a lot of mistakes, who knows if more or less than the past generations. And we shouldn’t be blamed in the future.

    Blaming the past generations and not learning from them is a childish response. Start doing something productive and useful to society, blaming is not helping.

    Stop having tantrums and grow up. And thank you have past generations otherwise you would have to create all we have now from scratch.

    It’s like saying “Newton dumb” because his work is old and it doesn’t work correctly for all physical frames, not like Einstein his work is much better. Both are as good because they lived at different times with different technology, knowledge, society, etc.

    This feels like explaining basic life knowledge to a 3 year old tbh.

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        So you think Doubling down somehow erases the problem. It totally doesn’t put you at their level, right? Or did you think everyone is just so dumb they can’t see your stupid thrown into the ring too?

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        No, they don’t. They blamed the silent gen for ecological destruction, social inequality, and war. They also, like every generation back to australopithecus blamed their elders and thought the younger generation was spoiled & had shorter attention spans.

        Don’t foolishly attribute a universal human flaw to a single group of people.

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        Yeah, not like boomers blame millenials or gen Z for everything. Oh wait.

        Maybe we should stop dividing up into age tribes and attacking each other?

        The problems we face affect every age in the same way.

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      Kiddies who can’t think beyond the “us vs them” mentality but also think that all old people are bad, like that’s not as insane a generalisation as saying “all people of X race/sexuality/whatever are bad”. Human brains love trying to put everything in categories and labels, especially other humans.

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        also think that all old people are bad

        Not many people actually believe this. It’s more that statistically it’s better for the country as more old people die. My boomer parents are progressive, but the generation by and large is holding us back. Of course the electoral college is part of the problem as well.

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          Ok so when that generation is dead, how does that fix the musk, Bezos, chesky, Zuckerberg problem exactly? We’re still stuck with them. They are still doing far more damage.

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            With more progressive voting comes more chances at holding billionaires accountable. Boomers vote GOP who gives tax breaks to the rich.

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              And yet somehow the younger generations are powerless to stop the evil boomers when they have the political numerical superiority to make the changes they want now…

              Get out and vote. Run for office - local politics is where you start - get involved. Be that change.

              ******And always remember that one day YOU will become the hated generation that is standing in the way of progress.

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                Get out and vote. Run for office - local politics is where you start - get involved. Be that change.

                It really just comes down to this.

                But it takes more effort to do so, than comment on an Internet forum.

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                  I have served in local politics and public safety but my time is long past. It’s well past time the next generations start to run things and I’m tired of waiting.

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          Every generation can see right from wrong. The problem is we’re not all agreeing on what is right and what is wrong.

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        Speaking of how we categorize …Rememberer how a bunch of idiots tried to categorize Covid as if it was china to blame and relating it to diet of eating bats meanwhile there’s white dudes in North America chowing down on venison infested with prions pretending mad cow isn’t a thing. No one should be pointing fingers.

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      What kind of psycopath counts generation death as a good thing. All interesting humans dead and you take it as an achievement.

      It needs 3 generations after a traumatic incident to get the negative consequences out of the population.

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      Because as a new generation we’re going to make a lot of mistakes, who knows if more or less than the past generations.

      musk, Zuckerberg, Chesky, bezos are but a few who aren’t even boomers and have done probably far more destruction to society with their attainment of wealth.

      We’re gonna see this current generation posting this usVSthem bullshit explain all that away to the future generation when their kids look into their online memes like this one about how ‘they knew better than boomers enough to criticize’

      “Tell me about how you stood by Greta thunberg and didn’t just sit on your ass posting drivel on your iPhone while you rented Airbnb and got half your things off of Amazon. Did you vote in trump? Tell me how did he become president again?”

      Part of me thinks this generation posting this generation meme drek is a poor attempt to quickly burry this giant steaming pile of poo.

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      Surprised your comment has positive upvotes because this thread has turned into /FuckBoomers.

      Boomers aren’t the problem.

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      You should click on the link so that you realize that you are in fact a retard, as there is a clock for every generation with currently living members

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        It’s more about the comments around this post. Idk what were the intentions when OP posted this. But the comments are pretty clear. Stuff like “Death to all boomers”, " when boomers dead all good", etc.

        But yeah you definitely seem a cool guy to hang with, calling retard to everybody that thinks different or doesn’t agree with some ways of dealing with life.

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          Firstly, I genuinely don’t care what you or anyone else thinks of me because you are not someone I have ever met and we will very likely never speak again outside of this board. That being said, I do care about the feelings of others when it comes to how they feel emotionally, and my post was not meant to be deep cutting but rather a light jab. I realize that words online are much more difficult to convey the exact meaning of because you cannot tie emotion to them in a way that other people will pick up on.

          Second, your point was made invalid when you stated that this was specifically something made for boomers, which if you would have went and clicked on the link, would have realized is not the case.

          Three, you literally did the exact same thing! You compared their intelligence to that of a three year old! You didn’t make your comment about the othsr comments, you made it about the content of the post, that is incredibly clear.

          Now do I think you are a human who is actually mentally handicapped? Of course not, but in that particular moment you were definitely favoring it, and that’s totally fine, the intention of my comment was not to try and hurt your feelings, but rather to point out your mistake so that you and others can learn that this is not just some calendar made to shit on boomers and celebrate the death of them (which becomes a harder ask as healthcare becomes even better).

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    The problem isnt going to end with them. My right wing friends are completely indoctrinated by their boomer parents. And getting louder and louder about it.

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      They’ll be outnumbered after the boomers are gone. They’ll either have to adapt, hide back in the shadows, or go full extremist.

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        Here’s to hoping. It’s exhausting. I can’t have a single conversation without them slyly trying to slip in some earworm or go off on a tirade unexpectedly because I inadvertently trigger them.

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          Here’s to hoping. It’s exhausting. I can’t have a single conversation without them slyly trying to slip in some earworm or go off on a tirade unexpectedly because I inadvertently trigger them.

          It’s worth the effort though. Thank you, citizen, for taking the time to do so.

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    Interesting to look at, numbers wise… but it makes me think of the time I have left with my parents. I’m calling them tomorrow!

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    Putting Keanu next to dead Boomers is like when Micheal Scott announced he hit Meredith and the doctors did all they could.

    Why would you phrase it like that?!

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      Just checked, wow he’s technically a Boomer! Born in 1964, so just made it.

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          The generally accepted window for Baby Boomers, despite horny soldiers being home from WW2 for many years after 1945, is the window written in the post.

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          I don’t understand, are you confused at the age range for Boomers? It literally says it in the image…

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              Yes. Didn’t notice those dates. Still makes no sense if you take the name literally though…

              You’re wrong chronologically, but you’re right based on how those labels are used to judge people’s social values.

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                  So it takes 20 years for a sexed up WW2 vet to hop in the sack after returning from the war?

                  Fuck if I know, that’s not what I’m speaking about.

                  You don’t pop out of your mother’s womb already programmed to have an understanding of the socieity that you live in. You learn as you go from external sources (parents, family, society) and you act a certain way at each milestone of your life (child, young teenager, older teenager, young adult, adult, middle aged, senior).

                  When we all judge someone by applying a generation label its done based on how they act/opine, and not the chronological date that they entered the World. There’s a lag/delay from when a person starts to exist on this Earth to the time they form a personality and express said personality.

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            I don’t understand, are you confused at the age range for Boomers? It literally says it in the image…

            I get where they’re coming from.

            The starting point is normally defined at the time you came out of your mother’s womb, but it really shouldn’t be.

            It should be started at the point where you first enter society as a child, and start learning your generation’s societal values.

            Basically, when you started kindergarten, or Elementary School.

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              They did that for Gen Z, where it’s essentially the dividing line between people who were more or less cognizant when 9/11 happened, and those who weren’t.

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        Just checked, wow he’s technically a Boomer! Born in 1964, so just made it.

        The identifier should be started at the age you entered society, and not the age you came out of your mother’s womb.

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            You can infer the age you entered society from the age you left the womb.

            That doesn’t work. Technically I’m a Boomer, but I act and think completely like a Gen-Xer.

            In fact growing up I used to give Boomers crap myself, until I got more wise. They acted completely different from me, based on the times they grew up in.

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              I didn’t come up with the age range, but it’s been well established for a while now. Someone else told me about “Generation Jones”, which is basically just the younger half of the Boomer generation I guess. I feel like that’s splitting hairs, but who knows, maybe it makes some sort of sense to you?

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    I love how many people are going on about how one generation isn’t the cause of all our problems. I agree. Neither the post nor the website say anything good nor bad about any generation, just that it’s -mildly interesting- that boomers just hit 1/3 dead.

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        No other age cohort has been responsible for caring for the earth for the time they were adults and done such a horrific job. In the US, the cherry on top is also that this generation kicked everything their parents generation fought for into the dirt, including most of the social safety net, because of a bunch of dumb conservative rhetoric.

        I think it is pretty fair as far as generalizations go, though of course it is a generalization. Boomers get all defensive with the “but you shouldn’t just blame a whole generation!” even though blaming millennials seems to be a major policy point for a lot of boomers… but they just don’t get it. The boomer generation will be remembered for literally thousands of years for being the generation that was adults in power when climate change was pushed into an unstoppable momentum, biodiversity catastrophically crashed, and the priceless gift of earth that has been handed down to every generation was dealt a massive amount of damage that will reverberate for again, literally thousands of years at the minimum.

        Boomers think I am attacking them in an us vs. them mentality, it is unfortunately so much bigger than a petty fight between generations though. Boomers aren’t just another generation that will be largely forgotten a century or two from now, and it is a massive understatement to say the time they were stewards of the earth will not be remembered kindly by future generations.

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          This is precisely the thing I’ve noticed recently. You make a statement like yours and suddenly people start crying about not generalizing or how there’s really no such thing as generations and whatever other nonsense. Frankly, I don’t think that too many people over the age of 50 are on Lemmy yet so I think that there are some people who just want to be contrary taking the chance to.

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          It must be weird judging a whole generation based only on what you know from learning about via social media.

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            Wait, why do you consider learning about things initially through social media a bad thing?

            Sure there is a ton of nonsense and outright lies out there, but social media is also unarguably a massive source of education for people on a dizzying array of topics. Look at how silly but genuine ADHD tiktok or instagram accounts have massively raised awareness about ADHD for the better as only one example. Look at /r/ADHD as a huge source of good information and discussion for people with ADHD as another. The existence of social media has irrevocably raised the voices of the oppressed in a way TV and newspapers aren’t really interested in doing except for the odd anomaly that gets through the filter of the rich.

            sigh whatever…

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              Wait, why do you consider learning about things initially through social media a bad thing?

              Sure there is a ton of nonsense and outright lies out there

              You answered your own question.

              For the record, I’m distinguishing between “Social Media” and “the Internet”. The former is for entertainment, and the latter is for learning/knowledge.

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        No other arbitrary age cohort has been so unjustly hated in American history

        You talking about Boomers, or Gen-Xers?

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      mildly interesting- that boomers just hit 1/3 dead.

      I do wonder about the accuracy of that though. It’s not like the website owner went through every death certificate ASAIK.

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        That’s how statistics work. You take a sample and abstract it to the population. If you required every one to be checked, then no numbers of any sort would be made up because that’s too much work.

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          That’s how statistics work. You take a sample and abstract it to the population. If you required every one to be checked, then no numbers of any sort would be made up because that’s too much work.

          Yeah sure, I’m aware of how statistics work. I’m just not confident that they are interpreting the statistics correctly.

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    My mother is pre-Boomer (born soon after the U.S. entered the war) and has been incredibly progressive her entire life. She has never voted for a Republican. She marched for civil rights. She wanted me to know that women and men are equal and that color and religion and ethnicity should not make you dislike someone. She taught me about sex (appropriately) when I asked about it at 3 or 4 years old rather than shielding me from it. My brother and I both have (had in my case, but that’s another story) gay best friends who were also best man at both of our weddings. She always welcomed them even though my brother and his friend became friends in the mid-1980s. I remember asking my mother what she would do if I was gay and she said she would love me no matter what I was. I don’t specifically know her politics, but my dad, born even earlier (1931) was mostly the same way. He definitely had his prejudices- although he would deny it- and he was a lot more sexist than he thought he was, but he was also an outspoken socialist until the dementia got too bad for him to be outspoken about it. One of the last things I was able to tell him before he was too far gone to understand was that Bernie was running for president.

    I have certainly had a lot of issues with Boomers and people older than them, but it is far from universal, but I am really proud of my parents for always being progressive.

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      I am really proud of my parents for always being progressive.

      I hate the burst your bubble, but they weren’t being progressive, they were being 80’s liberals. Today’s progressives are a different thing.

      (BTW, your comment was a good read.)

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        Again, my father was a socialist. He wrote a his dissertation on Shaw and the socialist aspects of one of his plays. He was British and said he was never more proud of his homeland then when he helped it usher in the National Health Service with his vote. When I moved here to Terre Haute, Indiana, he made sure to get me to take him to the Eugene V. Debs museum because of how much he admired debs. How does that make him an 80s liberal? Do please explain.

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          Again, my father was a socialist. He wrote a his dissertation on Shaw and the socialist aspects of one of his plays. He was British and said he was never more proud of his homeland then when he helped it usher in the National Health Service with his vote. When I moved here to Terre Haute, Indiana, he made sure to get me to take him to the Eugene V. Debs museum because of how much he admired debs. How does that make him an 80s liberal? Do please explain.

          I was speaking of the word used as an identifier/label, ‘progressive’, vs ‘liberal’, and not the content of what was being said, at all. No disrespect was meant towards the comment, just a tongue-and-cheeck attempt at discussing the labels. As I mentioned before, concerning the content of your comment …

          (BTW, your comment was a good read.)

          When it comes to my comment discussing labels, today’s ‘liberal’ is considered a ‘centrist’ by today’s younger generations (which pisses me off to no end, but that’s another discussion for another time), and what they think of as liberal they call progressive, hence my comment.

          And for the record (not trying to measure dicks here, but only because you quoted your dads history) I’m a Gen-Xer who was born/raised in the San Fernando Valley area of Los Angeles in the 70’s/80’s, a perverbial “Valley Dude”, and lived ‘in the capital of Liberalism’ the vast majority of my life. Liberalism of that day is not what Progressivism is today. I feel that I could be considered a ‘subject expert’ in a court case when it came to Liberals and Liberalism of that time.

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          I’m what world is this kind of pedantry useful?

          In what world is this kind of verbal policing useful?

          No need to be hostile.

          Concerning your question, at the very least, my world. But I suspect most people can recognize a conversation comment about how different generations see things and identify them, for its own sake. You know, Lemmy is about conversations about subjects.

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    I find this insanely interesting. I hope someone does this for us Xers but I have a feeling that everyone will forget about us.

    And with this, I’m also interested in the rate of change here. Are boomers dying faster, slower, steady rate?