Lake Ontario had its name longer than the US or Canada even existed
Pedantry (?) corner:
Six Nations Mohawk history YouTuber Malcolm PL says that the name just means “good lake”. The “lake of shining waters” translation is sort of an embellished/exoticized translation of a type you’ll often see with Indigenous place names: the real meanings of the names are often kind of boring and utilitarian, maybe even offputting, but through some sort of telephone game the translation that sticks around in pop culture is some really poetic-sounding oh-so-close-to-nature thing that looks good on a postcard, something you can image someone with a Hollywood Indian accent saying while accompanied by serene flute music, and then a hawk screeches and thunder roars as the white man is enlightened by the Native’s sage wisdom. Compare and contrast the supposed meanings of “Idaho”, “Minnesota”, and the North Korean word for “hamburger”.
Also, Haudenosaunee is a confederation of several nations with their own different but related languages. The form of the name “Ontario” in English likely comes from the Wyandot name, ontari꞉io; the form in the post title, Oniatarí-io, is the Mohawk form.
Six Nations Mohawk history YouTuber Malcolm PL says that the name just means “good lake”. The “lake of shining waters” translation is sort of an embellished/exoticized translation of a type you’ll often see with Indigenous place names: the real meanings of the names are often kind of boring and utilitarian, maybe even offputting, but through some sort of telephone game the translation that sticks around in pop culture is some really poetic-sounding oh-so-close-to-nature thing that looks good on a postcard, something you can image someone with a Hollywood Indian accent saying while accompanied by serene flute music, and then a hawk screeches and thunder roars as the white man is enlightened by the Native’s sage wisdom. Compare and contrast the supposed meanings of “Idaho”, “Minnesota”, and the North Korean word for “hamburger”.
I often feel that Chinese is very flowery with its language, then you read some shit like “Melon City” randomly interspersed into it
Or just 芜湖 which I can’t help but read enthusiastically as ‘woohoo!’
damn thats a good lake
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
So Trump manages to be racist even when he isn’t trying to be. It’s like he’s got an instinctive, preternatural racism.
So if the province is named after the lake, and the lake is renamed America, is America now a province of Canada?
i think the province is now also called “america”
Right, and it’s a province of Canada!
I think it might just be a US thing, in Europe it’s still Lake Ontario (Lake America).
This is so lame.
So its name is Lake-Lake?
Plenty of that across languages since people would go to an area and ask the locals “what do you call this lake/river/mountain range/desert/ocean?” And since that was the only lake/river/mountain range/desert/ocean the locals really knew about, it was just called that in their language.
This is how a lot of historic locations got their names, funny enough. If you’re a hunter-gatherer tribe and you only have one river or whatever in travel distance, you’re probably just going to call it “the river” because it’s going to be obvious which one you’re talking about.
Perhaps the most famous examples being Torpenhow Hill, which can be translated as Hillhillhill Hill, or the River Avon which is the River River.
there’s a long list of river rivers
The indigenous people probably just called it Oniatarí-io. The settlers called it Lake lake of the shining waters.
silly crackers have done it again, like calling chai tea-tea
sahara means deserts (plural), so “the sahara desert” means the deserts desert
may I have it with some naan bread?
The US borders are the Lake Ontario (lake) at the north, the Rio Grande (river) river at the south…
