• VeganPizza69 Ⓥ@lemmy.vg
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    20 hours ago

    political pressure and bold collective action

    as that doesn’t really exist, it has to start. To start it, it requires individual action, including individual sacrifices. There is no secret vanguard lurking, waiting, to “do actions” while everyone else acts the same as before.

    It is also essential to understand what changes look like down to the individual, to you, otherwise there’s a risk that the needed systemic changes will be rejected by collectives. We already can see widely popular science denying populism.

  • Mike D@piefed.social
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    I do my part for the environment. Separating my garbage into trash, recyclable, or composting. Try to keep the speed down to conserve fuel, etc. I even returned some cans to today to get the deposit back ($38!).

    It is always in the back of my mind that billionaires take private jets everywhere. Nothing I can do will overcome that.

    Yet I still persist knowing I don’t have to be perfect to still help the environment.

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    Like it or not, lifestyle choices are an extremely efficient political pressure.

    It also has the advantage to exist, unlike the revolution we all dream of. Sorry, I meant “bold collective action”.

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        17 hours ago

        Ok, I looked at your post history and you’re a troll so I’m blocking you, but here is my answer for the others :

        What are you even talking about? The problem is not solved if that’s what you mean. Some things are worst, but many things changed for the better in the last 40 years. For instance the emission of europe decreased by more than 30% since I was your age (5yo), not counting deindustrialization. It’s insufficient, but it has to start somewhere.

        Many of those changes come from the public support, that is shown in many ways, including the lifestyle of the voters. For instance if the dutch people didn’t start cycling that much, leading the way for the rest of northern europe, the emissions from transportation would be higher on the continent.

        I’m not here to make you a list. You can just look for yourself, and you should because apparently you are not informed at all on the matter (memes are not a source of information). So really I don’t what you are so condescending about.

        I get it that’s a lot more words than you can take, and you are too busy wasting your youth cosplaying a revolutionnary on the internet while living your life like the rightoid that you are, so have fun with that. See, other people can be condescending too.

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          I’m right, nothing in my post history is gonna make that any less true, your complete lack of results speaks for itself

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    It really gets me that life was plenty nice and convenient in the 70’s when I was young with there being very little plastic. I really wish we could go back to that.

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      I like describing the 70s as convenient, because to me it reads as “convenient enough.” I just visited a recently renovated library and noticed curbside pickup spots (as in they run the books out while you sit in your car.) Outside of the disabled, do we really need that?

      I’ve been wondering to what degree we’re addicted to convenience, and what the right amount might be.

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        I think something being convenient is not bad though. Like what you mention either uses staff already working for the day or encourages hiring more and it frees up an aggregate of time among people to be useful if they are busy. That being said part of the fun of the library is exploring it.

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      You turn up. In person. You show the ability to interfere with political fundraising. You work to turn out voters on your side. You areange boycotts and other measures.

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          It happens when you start making it happen.

          It’s labour day long weekend where I’m at. If it’s a long weekend for you there’s probably something happening that you could get involved in, lending your skills or just emotional support.

          Like I just got roped into an action when I’d much rather be staying at home, but you’ll never know what’s happening until you put yourself out there.

          A global climate crisis is coming that I can’t do anything about, but I can do my part to build local resilience so the people I know have a better chance of surviving in one piece.

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            Bruh it’s too late. Kids 25 and under don’t give a fuck anymore. You will show up but that doesn’t matter. The rich emit 90% of emissions. The only way we stop this is by eating the rich. #luigitime

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    So the only way to change things is by forcing other people to change their ways? Except for the leftist movie/pop stars, I’m sure they’ll get waivers to fly their private jets all over the world so that they’re left as fans could enjoy the concerts. This is what the whole of the United States thinks of this, it’s a trojan horse for control of the out group and exemptions for the in group

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      I think the actual point is that making people personally responsible isn’t a sustainable solution long-term.

      Just as an example I’ve been recycling probably 99% of plastic that comes into my home. Though I actively avoid buying products with plastic packaging it’s impossible to do this on any meaningful scale alone.

      We need to incentivize producers to find better ways to package their products. If we can prevent waste at its source rather than having to convince everyone “please recycle bro” we could actually improve the world. (Also, have you seen people “sort” their curbside recycling bin?)

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        Well I wish this would happen but I think corporations would assassinate politicians before trying to save the planet

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          Jesus Christ, there’s more money in a living planet than a dead one. The moment regular people like you just start expecting corporations to do better, and punish the ones that don’t, this all gets fixed in one or two financial quarters.