I notice that he’s specifying “economic aid,” not the other kind.
this is a total scam. i saw him talking about this a month or two ago in relation to the US trying to basically wrap the IOF and US Military into one thing. he was trying to paint this as somehow, in his own words “israel standing on its own feet”.
so in other words, he wants unlimited funding, he wants it to be hidden, and he wants to pretend somehow this is israel “standing on its own two feet” hoping nobody knows any better.
why doesn’t this worthless pig go get a job at mcdonalds to pay for his bombs?
i saw him talking about this a month or two ago in relation to the US trying to basically wrap the IOF and US Military into one thing
This is correct. It’s called Section 224 of NDAA 2027.
On June 1, 2026, Prime Minister of Israel Benjamin Netanyahu wrote a letter to representative Marlin Stutzman thanking Stutzman for endorsing “my plan” for a “new framework of joint defense cooperation, codevelopment, coproduction and mutual investment in areas including advanced missile defense, artificial intelligence unmanned systems, cybersecurity and next generation military platforms.”[29] Responsible Statecraft described Netanyahu’s letter as an endorsement of Section 224 of the NDAA 2027, writing that the Section “essentially transforms Israel from a top U.S. aid recipient to a full member of the U.S. defense and intelligence apparatus.”[30]
In the article of the OP, Netanyahu compares US funding Israel to “welfare”. Welfare is funding with means testing attached. Netanyahu is not turning down the money; he’s turning down the means testing. Netanyahu says that Israel has a large economy; this is meant to imply that Israel should not be subordinate. Netanyahu wants to stop conditioned funding to Israel because he wants unconditional funding to Israel.
Netanyahu goes on to say that he wants the Zionist entity to continue its military occupation of 20% of Lebanon, which violates the US-Iran MoU of the US-Israel war against Iran. Netanyahu also says he wants Zionist settlements in Gaza and to block the existence of a Palestinian state.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States-Israel_FUTURES_Act
Netanyahu is not turning down the money; he’s turning down the means testing. Netanyahu says that Israel has a large economy; this is meant to imply that Israel should not be subordinate.
Really solid analysis here! A major shift in intention over the last 10 years or so is that Israel has been shedding its status as a vassal state by becoming fully integrated into the US. The intent is that Israel will be independent from the US in name only. The IDF will no longer be supplied or aided by the US Military, it will just be the US military. The Israeli economy will be as critical to and inseparable from the US as California’s is.
Who is this for? Who actually believes that
- The Zionist entity doesn’t need US funding and arms trafficking, and/or that
- Netanyahu actually wants the yank gravy train to stop
Who is supposed to fall for this bullshit?
He’s speaking to his right wing flank in Israel that is currently foaming at the mouth over Trump wanting to do the MOU cause they want unlimited war. He’s just assuring them that he will continue the war even if Trump threatened to cut aid off, which as you point out is bullshit, they can’t even strike Iran without American refueling tankers.
there is a difference between aid and selling of weapons. one sale of entity start up to google have been bigger than whole obama’s decade-long aid package.
it’s such an easy win for dems and republicans to bullshit around. now it won’t be usa funded genocide, now it will be usa supplied genocide™. and that’s ignoring all the little bullshit around the margins they can to to continue funding as well (say providing intelligence is not funding entity, it’s helping an ally).
notably no one in the democratic party (including dsa) supports sanctions and blockade of entity, much less regime change and military occupation
aight bet
Netanyahu’s Kayfabe
“FINE! I’ll just go make my OWN BOMBS AT HOME!”
Little Satan throwing a temper tantrum at his father Great Satan
Little Nicky (2000)
It’s been funny to see the liberal Zionists here cheer on DSA candidates for policies recommended by Netanyahu himself. The “end military aid” to Israel is exactly what he wants. As long as Americans can wash their hands of the mess they made and get their treats after, everything’s good.
Edit: Just read this: https://www.imeupolicyproject.org/memos/israels-proposal-to-end-us-military-aid-is-actually-designed-to-further-enmesh-the-us-in-its-oppression-of-palestinians . Nobody responding to me has read anything about this subject. Just literal Great Man Theory "Netanyahu is the real evil"ism. Most knowledgeable Hexbear discussion on Israel:
I’m no fan of the DSA, but I don’t think that’s the motive here.
I think Netanyahu is bullshitting here. Without US aid they’ve have a way harder time dealing with the blowback of their actions. Invading Lebanon isn’t going to be as viable of an option if the iron dome stops working and you have to deal with all those Iranian drones making it to Tel Aviv.
It’d be better to put the whole damn country under embargo but barring that stopping the stream of free missiles is better than nothing.
Supporting this is a limited hangout. Military funding to Israel is very unpopular so they are moving to a different model.
I mean do you really think the Democrats can just ignore the extreme unpopularity of Israel right now? And then do you also believe that they are just going to stop supporting it’s existence as much as they can get away with? None of the people that support this really want an end to Israel (which should be everyone’s goal).
better than nothing.
There it is. It always comes down to this. “Why support good thing, when I could support not as terrible thing instead?”
I don’t think anyone in the DSA support the integration of the Israeli and US military. I’m curious what actual policies you think they should be calling for here, like actual policies not just saying “death to Israel”. Like I don’t think an US military intervention into Israel is really in the cards, or even an embargo of the country.
So, what? We should support military aid to Israel?
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nobody else here wants aid to israel either, and would happily clarify if it came up that “aid” is shorthand for any support channel like this direct military integration shit
That’s not their point. Their point is that “Military aid” to Israel is not all that must be opposed. That is not where the genocidal military industrial complex begins nor ends.
I don’t agree with the way they are phrasing it. But they have not stated support for Israel, and I dont think we need to assume zionism of people.
Netanyahu absolutely does not actually want an end to US military aid. Netanyahu is a liar, and what he is doing here is lying.
He wants to appear strong and powerful. And he also wants to be handed billions in arms with no strings attached.
No, he is smart (smarter than anyone responding to me, and certainly smarter than your average Democrat). He wants to entwine the US military with that of Israel, which could not be cut off by a bill being passed or not. Military funding to Israel is very unpopular and he knows that. And he is (successfully) getting ahead of it.
Yeah. He means stop sending them aid in the same sense that Diego Garcia doesn’t receive “aid”, and instead integrate them into the logistics & procurement systems so they can order everything for themselves
Yes yes. But until he gets to purchase with the US’ checkbook he still needs the aid, and it is dishonest to imply otherwise.
Okay, you should direct that towards someone who’s implying that, not me. Most people, including people on this site, as you can see from the replies, are not thinking about why this is happening. You say “yes yes”, except that everyone else is denying it. So why aren’t you replying to them?
No one here has opposed you on this particular issue? People have rightly pointed out that Netanyahu’s goal is not actually an end to American’s sending them money and guns.
Yes, and that’s literally my point.
For the people responding to this person, what they’re talking about (I’m assuming) is how Netanyahu is pushing for a restructuring of relationships between Israel’s military and the US military; if this passes, then US military spending will AUTOMATICALLY mean funding Israel militarily; at that point cutting funding to Israel’s military will mean nothing because then money spent on the US military will simply directly go to Israel without a real trail because it’ll look like it’s simply funding the US military.
Yes we want an end to military aid to Israel, but I think what Kumikommunism means is that this loophole makes ending military aid to Israel a fake victory to placate libs, because Israel will continue to get weapons except as if they were members of the US military, meaning nothing will be achieved anyway.
(I hope my assumption of what you’re saying is correct)
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That is correct, thank you. I linked an article about it and have clarified what I mean, but people are still misinterpreting me for some reason.
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this is obviously a bluff what are you talking about?
So you mean all the Democrats (and Lindsay Fucking Graham, for example) just suddenly decided they didn’t want to kill as many arabs as possible and that’s why they are all on board with this? What would the point of this bluff even be?
You do understand that without US military aid, the whole country collapses, right?
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Just literal Great Man Theory "Netanyahu is the real evil"ism.
Who’s doing that? This post is specifically about what something Netanyahu said, people were debating why he said it. That in no way suggests people here don’t oppose the country as a whole.
I also wonder if he knows that it’s a whole Western project. Sure, it’s US’s main ally, but Germany, the UK, and most of Europe will probably bend over backwards to fund Israel if the US ever decides to lower their aid to Israel.
Europe is already being bled dry by Ukraine, they absolutely cannot afford to fund a second nazi state fighting a losing war. If the US quits, that’s it.
:inshallah:
The only “aid” Israel needs is the Hiroshima-Nagasaki kind.
the land rightfully belongs to Palestinians and shouldn’t be nuked because of its occupation
Ok, yours is the correct take.
Does land in general rightfully belong to anyone? Isn’t this the same argument Zionists use to justify Israel?
This is just obstructionist post-modernism to essentially delegitimize anyone’s presence on any given territory thus justify displacement by force as legitimate as concurrent presence.
Post-modernist shit. When will they learn that marxism is a totalizing, universalizing theory? (Not the little guy you’re responding to tho)
ima be real, i have no idea what you said
I speak academic. The comment is saying you’re nitpicking over what words mean to the point you’re equating expulsion from an area to two different groups of people living in the same area simultaneously. In this case you’re equating the ideology of Zionism, which seeks to expel or subdue the Palestinian population, to the idea of a free Palestine. There’s also a historical basis for Palestine having Jews and Arabs live together in the area for hundreds of years.
Personally I don’t think you’re equating these two things, I think maybe you’re asking stuff in good faith
Yeah i’m not trying to equate them, and I do genuinely want to learn since i’m new to Marxism. I guess I need to study the history of the levant more, I have no idea how life was for Jews in the area before Israel was founded
You’d be very interested in reading specifically about British Palestine. Jews and Arabs (often those two groups weren’t distinct) coexisted in the area for centuries during the Ottoman Empire. British control coincided with the rise of political Zionism and settlement of Palestine by European Jewish immigrants. These immigrants set up their own communities, complete with their own armed soldiers who would do things like burn down the homes of Arab families. It got so bad the UK had to try limiting Jewish immigration into the area, which resulted in the Zionists attacking British military facilities. So on so on, the Zionist Entity declares independence in 1948.
Yes the land rightfully belongs to Palestine. No, this isn’t the same thing zionists claim.
How did palestine earn the right to the land? Is it because they were living there first before they were kicked out? In that case, I’m unsure how this is different from Zionists claiming that they were there first, or any other group of people who ever lived in the region?
Because the Zionist entity is a colonial project and Palestine isn’t. The colonization is currently ongoing and shouldn’t occur. Furthermore, Zionists claim they were indigenous thousands of years ago, whereas Palestinian victims of the Nakba are currently still alive. Surely that lends more authority to who the land belongs to. Zionists also claim that all Jews worldwide, except perhaps Ethiopians, have a right to expel Palestinians from the area, even if they’re a Yiddish speaking Jew from Brooklyn.
I definitely agree with you that Palestinians have more of a “right” than Zionists to live in the area. I’m just taking issue with your original comment implying that land should be divided according to what group has the “right” to live there, since as an internationalist I believe in freedom of movement.
Zionists don’t deserve that.
What you’re talking about isn’t mutually exclusive though
Because Palestinians are the native inhabitants of that land. Unlike Zionists there was never a mass expulsion by “Arabs”, rather just an organic cultural shift.
