I usually place this into a different perspective.
Many Christians in the U.S. do study their holy texts. However, it is extremely, extremely rarely that they do so with an attempt to understand the context in which it was written and how to understand and apply the advice that it gives in a modern context, and almost always about agreeing and confirming their in-group biases, often relying on increasingly absurd justifications as to how their religion is in fact historically universal, and simultaneously trying to argue that faith is the only thing necessary for salvation, but also to that there is a bunch of historical evidence that everything that happened in the Bible is real, and that the prophecies will come true.
It’s basically like trying to argue about if Goku could beat Superman. People will throw out hundreds of citations, contradict themselves with the canon, as the canon is also contradictory, but it ignores the fundamental issue that neither Superman or Goku are real, therefore it is completely up to the individual’s imagination who would win, and arguing about it is an exercise in futility.
Like there are Christians out there who will openly profess to studying ‘apologetics’, not realizing that that was the term their detractors historically used to make fun of them, because they are constantly ‘apologizing’ for issues from the scriptures.
But again these are often people who think that the Bible is the Word of God, but also reject the entity (the Catholic Church) that compiled it.
It doesn’t matter how much they study their holy book because they aren’t actually interested in a rational discourse around it.
this particular view is professed only by the Catholics themselves. Orthodox and Miaphysite Christians see the Roman Church as having split from the original Christian community, viewing themselves as the unbroken continuation.
most Protestants, meanwhile, though accepting the Western dictum of seeing the Eastern churches as schismatics, usually believe that the Latin Patriarchate has been corrupted over time or, in the case of some more radical groups, is the product of usurpation altogether.
However, my overall point still stands. The Orthodox and Miaphysite Churches, while viewing themselves as non-schismatic, still don’t make the fundamental error of viewing the Bible as the end-all, be-all document on what it means to follow a Christian tradition, that American Protestants do. They at least understand that a document, even one as important and foundational as the Bible, that comes out of a human institution, one that could produce a schism such as the Catholic Church, is probably not the sole end product which only then requires interpretation to receive divine knowledge.
It’s all good, I should have expected someone would bring that up, I just rarely deal with believers in the Orthodox Church and never the Miaphysite Church, here in the U.S., even though I used to regularly attend Orthodox mass for about a year (had a buddy who grew up in the Church and didn’t have a car).
I usually place this into a different perspective.
Many Christians in the U.S. do study their holy texts. However, it is extremely, extremely rarely that they do so with an attempt to understand the context in which it was written and how to understand and apply the advice that it gives in a modern context, and almost always about agreeing and confirming their in-group biases, often relying on increasingly absurd justifications as to how their religion is in fact historically universal, and simultaneously trying to argue that faith is the only thing necessary for salvation, but also to that there is a bunch of historical evidence that everything that happened in the Bible is real, and that the prophecies will come true.
It’s basically like trying to argue about if Goku could beat Superman. People will throw out hundreds of citations, contradict themselves with the canon, as the canon is also contradictory, but it ignores the fundamental issue that neither Superman or Goku are real, therefore it is completely up to the individual’s imagination who would win, and arguing about it is an exercise in futility.
Like there are Christians out there who will openly profess to studying ‘apologetics’, not realizing that that was the term their detractors historically used to make fun of them, because they are constantly ‘apologizing’ for issues from the scriptures.
But again these are often people who think that the Bible is the Word of God, but also reject the entity (the Catholic Church) that compiled it.
It doesn’t matter how much they study their holy book because they aren’t actually interested in a rational discourse around it.
Haha yeah power scaling is pretty dumb
this particular view is professed only by the Catholics themselves. Orthodox and Miaphysite Christians see the Roman Church as having split from the original Christian community, viewing themselves as the unbroken continuation.
most Protestants, meanwhile, though accepting the Western dictum of seeing the Eastern churches as schismatics, usually believe that the Latin Patriarchate has been corrupted over time or, in the case of some more radical groups, is the product of usurpation altogether.
This is very true.
However, my overall point still stands. The Orthodox and Miaphysite Churches, while viewing themselves as non-schismatic, still don’t make the fundamental error of viewing the Bible as the end-all, be-all document on what it means to follow a Christian tradition, that American Protestants do. They at least understand that a document, even one as important and foundational as the Bible, that comes out of a human institution, one that could produce a schism such as the Catholic Church, is probably not the sole end product which only then requires interpretation to receive divine knowledge.
true, true. i agree with you, just couldn’t stop myself from bringing up that particular quibble, sorry.
It’s all good, I should have expected someone would bring that up, I just rarely deal with believers in the Orthodox Church and never the Miaphysite Church, here in the U.S., even though I used to regularly attend Orthodox mass for about a year (had a buddy who grew up in the Church and didn’t have a car).