• Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    7 hours ago

    I guess those spinning magnetic pills one puts in beakers over a magnetic hot plate in chemistry labs are all an empirical hoax then.

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      Those are stir bars.

      That they’re magnetic is propaganda to push magnetic field bunk to sell more so-called “magnets”. Stir bars are moved by phlogiston, which is why the liquid medium is often heated in tandem.

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    I wonder if we could engineer some material that does fulfill his spec. Magnetic in air, loses magnetic properties underwater, regains them when out of the water…

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      An electromagnet with no waterproofing. Stick it in water, it shorts out, once it dries out it starts working again.

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        That’s fine but it would be better if a partially submerged device also functioned partially. And I said material specifically because it’s lame if it needs power.

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          With a lot of things:

          You start off with no knowledge, and it’s a big mystery.

          You gain some knowledge and feel like you have understanding.

          You gain a lot more knowledge and you learn how much more there is that isn’t known.

          The President is either at stage 1 or stage 3, take your pick.

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        Whenever I think about magnets I remember this Feynman interview where someone asks him why magnets behave the way they do, and he says that to answer a “why”-question you need a foundation where something is agreed to be true, and it seems like for electromagnetic forces we end up in " because that’s how the universe is apparently".

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          Sure, but between nothing and the axioms of the standard model we end up with a fairly comprehensive description which can predict how different kinds of magnets behave in a wide variety of situations.

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              No, the theory of electromagnetism and by extension physics in general is knowing how it works. How to use it is engineering, a different set of knowledge which we also have some of.

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            That is sort of how the universe operates though. You can have a greater and greater understanding of the underlying principles of physics but eventually you do get to “that just how it is”. Why is there no such thing as a negative photon, apparently we just can’t have a negative excitation in the photon field, no one knows why.

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            This seems to be easily said of anyone trying to popularize science philosophy.

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      At this point you can’t really tell whether something is satire or a quote from the orange president.

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      Per Newsweek article

      “Think of it, magnets,” Trump said. “Now all I know about magnets is this, give me a glass of water, let me drop it on the magnets, that’s the end of the magnets. Why didn’t they use John Deere? Why didn’t they bring in the John Deere people? Do you like John Deere? I like John Deere.”

      Incoherent rambling like usual

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          He’s 80 and spent 6 of then as president. I don’t think you’d fare much better. Why blame a senile man rather than those who put him in place?l

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            My grandfather was 104 when he died and until he was about 95 and had a stroke he was still perfectly capable of tinkering around with his car and it still worked at the end of it. “Old” isn’t an excuse, anyway we have documented evidence that he has been been a gormless idiot his whole life.

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            Because even before he was a senile old man, he was already a child raping con artist?

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              When he finally does die they’re going to Weekend at Bernie’s him for as long as they can. But we’re all immediately going to be able to tell, because the level of stupid comments will drop significantly.

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          Many people are just as stupid as him.

          Our society prioritizes trash like nft startups instead of education

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            When I read the comment sections of my local news most of the comments are incoherent rambling like Trump but with more spelling mistakes. Its sad.

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            Many don’t really get to hear him unfiltered. Around T1 I was watching Fox and they at best had a text snippet of something he said. Never extra text around the snippet and certainly not the audio. Still many do go and see him live.

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            Many are, but many Trump supporters started out smarter than him but they’ve dumbed themselves down to his level in order to continue their support, I guess.

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              Some people will do anything to continue to fit in with their group. I don’t think it’s always even a conscious choice.

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          when you have a propaganda apparatus on tv, online helping its not hard. plus general mysgoyny and racism goes hand in handle. rather than actual “action plan”.

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          Just look how stupid the average person is. Half of the people are more stupid. Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

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            The last few years have taught me that the difference between stupid and not stupid is oceans wider than I thought.

            I turns out stupid people are closer to what I thought the intelligence of an animal was.

            These people literally don’t think. They basically pattern match and that’s it. There’s no deeper reasoning. There’s no capacity for nuance, no understanding or extension of empathy. They can barely read. If you string the gibberish from an AI they’ll blindly trust that it’s correct above all evidence.

            Meanwhile we’re seeing all these nuanced multi step problem solving behaviours from birds and all animals and even bumblebees…

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              I read something from someone on the internet who claimed to work with bear-proof garbage cans and apparently it’s harder than one might expect. There’s some overlap between the smartest bears and the dumbest people.

              I’m sure the bears are more motivated, but still…

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                The quote “There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists.” is usually attributed to a Yosemite National Park Ranger taking about the issue with designing bear proof trash cans.

            • TheRedSpade@lemmy.world
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              Can’t speak for anyone else, but I was taught that mean, median, and mode are three different types of average.

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                  Because mean means average. I wouldn’t consider the median or the mode to be an average. Not sure what that commenter means by different “types of average”.

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                Considering intelligence/stupidity isn’t defined, it’s a lot to assume that its distribution can be approximated by a Gaussian.

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        i wonder if his dimwitted supporters actually understand or trying to decipher what hes saying or they just like hearing him talk as background noise to affirm thier beliefs.

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          Maybe it’s to do with what a literal dogwhistle is. I can’t really make heads or tails of this, but that’s maybe just because my brain is on a completely different wavelength. Like dogs can hear specific frequencies humans can’t. Maybe trumpists hear certain things in between this word soup that actually makes sense on some level.

          Or maybe he’s just a senile old man and his followers are incapable of critical thought when it comes to him.

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        If you actually look at the pattern, you will see it used everywhere. He is using the same words all the time.

        It’s a kind of rambling that people recognize now, and you could have a stranger guess that it was Donald Trump who said this just from the semantics of the words.

        At this point I know (roughly) what he is going to say before he says it. :)

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        Incoherent rambling to us fucking poetry to the demented lead paint chip eating maga crowd

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        He said he would drop the glass on the magnets, not put them underwater. You can demagnetize a permanent magnet by violently striking it in the absence of a background field.

        I’m not saying he’s good, but I don’t think he’s entirely wrong.

        Don’t know why they didn’t use John Deere though.

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          The magnitude of physical stress waves a magnet has to undergo to be demagnetized is huge. Most magnetic materials will shatter instead unless the force is applied precisely.

          I think he vaguely remembered something about electromagnetism and that water on electronics is a no-no.

          The main takeaway is that he should appoint an engineer to advise him on technical topics (and Surgeon General on medical matters, etc.), otherwise any sufficiently sly corporate sponsor or media can easily steer his policy by pretending to be experts. I guess the only fields he does not need to delegate are being a douchebag on TV and lying about real estate.

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            Citation needed! I’ve done it with a cheap iron magnet and a hammer.

            Anyway I think he implied that these magnet was just below Curie temperature.

            He might just be a stable genius.

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                Now we’re talking science!

                I’ll write the funding proposal at once.

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              Iron magnets are crap, but I imagine he does not know better having gone to school in the 50s-60s. But yes, those are magnetically weak enough and physically strong enough for a hammer to work.

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      He was talking about electromagnets at sea ships… Because the sea-water would short them.

      But then, it’s almost as stupid as the short version.

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        This is retarded as well. I once repaired an undersea $10,000 cable for like $600.

        Like bitch (orange menace), pay people what they’re fucking worth, I was worth 3 times that much, if not more…

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      When ever you think something sounds too stupid even for trump. No you didn’t.

      His stupidity is his defining characteristic among his voters. For the wealthy and powerful, he’s an easily manipulable rube. For the poor saps he says the same stupid things they think and say. He’s just like them, so relatable!

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        And just in case anyone thinks that’s AI, ABC News vetted it as being true here (in the body, not the video).

        I know why voting records can’t be public, but I simultaneously wish they had to be too. As an appropriately-colored scarlet letter.

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      It sounds shocking until you remember Americans are dumb as shit. I have to keep reminding myself of this to make any sense of the absolute dystopian nightmare that somehow they support.

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      He is stupid, yes. But I think he might have been talking about electro magnets that get damaged when not properly protected. It is about the aircraft carrier that used it as a new launch system. Water, saltwater at that and there were some problems reported. I am sure the engineers are smart but a new system always has problems. Orange brain goes “bad tech” orange mouth goes “blaaargh”.

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        You’re doing the same bullshit that a bunch of idiots did all over media for years, when you hear trump or his ilk talking shit out of their ass, you immediately go “but if there was a sane normal person there what could they say”, and report on that, and this makes it as if there was a normal person there talking. It’s a sanewashing and it is a problem.

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          Yeah there’s nothing indicating he’s not just a complete moron who thinks magnets don’t work under water.

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          Also it’s a big problem if the person leading the most powerful country on the world cannot use precise language such that everyone is left second guessing what the fuck he’s on about.

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      Yes of course. That is the reason why you can put magnets under your foreskin under water and have nothing to fear under water, like getting hurt when metal comes nearby /s

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    Smart people will always admit when they aren’t sure about something.

    Idiots always know everything

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      Ironically, you’ve left your mistaken comment sit up here for 7 hours now. #Hypocrisy

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      At best you’re preaching to the chior. At worst you’re wrong and it’s not A.I., and you just look foolish. Your comment is a waste of bandwith either way. I’m tired of literally every thread having someone yelling “slop” in it.

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        And I’m tired of the fucking slop. Not posting slop is how you avoid unnecessary bandwidth.