• Acute_Engles [he/him, any]@hexbear.net
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    19 hours ago

    Buddy of mine moved here from england literally over 20 years ago and has never been back save for maybe one vacation.

    I send him every single anti uk/britain/england meme i come across

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    Orwell was more “what if what I think communism is was actually capitalism” and then he like went to become an asset for the US government and was also a rapist so tbh fuck Orwell, also Animal Farm is just a better story even tho it’s political message is a little less coherent than 1985

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      18 hours ago

      Orwell was more “what if what I think communism is was actually capitalism”

      I am not sure, but I think the meme is referencing that, since it’s not that obscure that he based the Ministry of Truth and several other things on his experience as a British propagandist. So in a certain way it’s literally about how shitty the UK is, just projected onto communism.

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      “Wot if the England you already know, but instead of cranking one to a nice old fashioned wood-framed picture of the Queen it was a vulgar mass produced poster of some dastardly asiatic warlord? Also I’m there, but I get a bimbo gf and it’s cool and stuff but it’s ACTUALLY A DEVIOUS ORIENTAL PLOT to expose me as a free thinker and force me into therapy!?” - literally the plot of 1984

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      I remember Animal Farm being one of the only books I enjoyed from high school even if I’m sure I’d be mildly annoyed with the political undertones now.

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        I like Animal Farm in HS too, but in retrospect the greatest problem in the story was fundamentally not pig Stalin, it’s the fact that, according to Orwell, the people cannot be meaningfully educated and almost never produce their own ideas, even when invited to. Pig Stalin is the big villain of course, but he would never have been able to do what he did if not for this fact, and that’s after being involved in trying and failing to educate the masses and have them participate in the political process. Any mildly intelligent and assertive individual could do the same, so systemically the problem is the masses, which Orwell pours derision on again and again and again. The book radiates misanthropy.

        I’m paraphrasing a talk given by Jones Manoel, but I have read Animal Farm several times because I really liked it at one point, and I think his assessment of the book’s misanthropy is totally accurate.