• TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    2·
    1 小时前

    A lot of countries hate the French, but us the Dutch hate the Spanish more. That’s what you get for invading us with an 80 year long war. We name an illness after you.

  • meduz@lemmy.worldEnglish
    3·
    2 小时前

    I suggest more primary source research should be done about this claim before drawing such maps. Speaking for Polish, I was not able to find any primary or even reliable secondary sources that claim anything about it being “turkish disease” (choroba turecka). Turkish disease, or a “sultan’s disease” was referred to severe diarrhea resulting from “sea sickness”, later to be associated to e. coli. bacteria. Is it possible that somewhere it got confused in translation when making this association? I’ve also been unable to find anything about it being a german disease outside of modern or foreign sources which don’t quote where they got that term from. The only terms in history I was able to validate here is “syfilis”, “kiła”, “przymiot” (1581) and… “franca” (1551). Today, the term “franca” is a general insult term.

    Now… For the french one, and what I primarily suspect to be the most solid argument here is the fact that in most of Europe this was referred to as “sys - philos”, so literally “swine loving”, because in 1530 an Italian dude wrote a poem about it, where supposedly god Apollo sent down the first guy with that disease and his name was syphilus. That poem was subtitled as “morbus gallicus” (french disease). Is that because they hated the French, or perhaps because the french were already calling it Neapolitan disease because there was an outbreak of the disease in Naples in 1495… I don’t know, I didn’t research too much about it so correct me if I’m wrong. Just seems like the naming started between french and italians, and later spread

    But, while I cannot speak for claims in other languages, I encourage you, if you speak a language, to do some digging to validate these claims. It’s interesting how English-speaking sources are claiming something and there’s seemingly no sources on it. How do those stories originate I wonder. Other than the french argument, how many of those can be validated?

    • AbsolutelyClawless@piefed.socialEnglish
      2·
      20 分钟前

      I can confirm that for Croatia it’s accurate to a point. At the end of the 18th and the beginning of the 19th century two separate towns had an outbreak of syphilis, and therefore the disease was named after these two places locally. From my understanding, in both cases the disease was mostly transmitted due to poor hygiene, and not much through sexual contact. In the second town, aside from the aforementioned, a bunch of kids and their families were infected because the local doctor vaccinated the kids against pox using materials from an infected child, unintentionally.

      But otherwise for the most part syphilis was called Gallic disease.

  • Frostbeard@lemmy.worldEnglish
    3·
    3 小时前

    Norway is left out because we call it syphilis.

    But from now on I will start referring to it as “Damage leaden” (Danish plague)

  • ClownStatue@piefed.socialEnglish
    9·
    10 小时前

    Says a lot about the general consensus about a country that none of your neighboring countries think you could be the source of their rise in an STD. Some countries fuck. Some don’t.

  • troglodyte_mignon@lemmy.worldEnglish
    21·
    14 小时前

    Fun fact : in Strasbourg, there’s a (very pretty) district called Petite France (“Little France”). Its name comes from a former hospital that treated syphilis at a time when Strasbourg was a part of Germany.

  • ComradeSharkfucker@lemmy.mlEnglish
    22·
    18 小时前

    The Italians were right to blame the French though. They brought it to Italy from the Americas during a military campaign in Naples

    • Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      4·
      9 小时前

      So we’re also right to blame the Italians, if they weren’t so sexy and promiscuous the disease would have stayed in France ! (/s)