>be me
>19
>autistic khhv
>lonely
>get great idea to work on my people skills
>join a friend finding server
>add foid
>we chat
>shits pretty boring she gives typical one word foid responses
>says shes a history major
>I know how to spice this conversation up 
>I think about asking her the classic would you kill baby Hitler to stop the holocaust?
>but then an even better question dawns upon me
>would you molest baby Hitler to stop the holocaust?
>calls me a freak then blocks me
>hour later I get banned from the discord
>pic related

Staff

We don’t need these “jokes” in our server. If you don’t know better you present a risk we wish to not allow in our server.

  • bountygiver [any]@lemmy.ml
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    Why must every time traveler kill baby hitler? Does no one realize if you raise Hitler right he might not have become a fascist instead?

    With this reasoning wouldn’t molesting baby Hitler made it worse?

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    I love how he uses autism as a shield for edgy, anti-social behavior.

    This phase will be something he either grows out of and later cringe at or he’s 45 years old and a lost cause.

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    Is this supposed to be funny? you’re just sharing horrible misogynist shit from a poorly socialised anti-social loser

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    Rather out of topic, but these one-word-repky people just spite me. Like, come on, I’m trying to be your friend, don’t come with “hm”!

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    I’d rather try and give baby Hitler a nice comfortable life with an understanding mentor, so that he never develops the hatred and closemindedness needed for the implementation of the Holocaust.

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      don’t kill hitler, go further back and kill Alexander the Great

      say goodbye to the HRE and all the catholic romaboos that followed

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    Yeah that’s uh… I mean I’m autistic and I was nowhere near that socially inept at age 19, damn.

    Also, because I had to look it up:

    khhv = kissless hugless handholdless virgin

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      He isn’t inept. He does it on purpose and uses autism as a shield.

      He’s the type of person who revels in making other people uncomfortable (especially women) because he’s very immature and going through his “poke the bear” phase.

      We all go through that phase to some extent, where we push back against the world to see how far we can go before the world slaps back and teaches us how to behave. Some kids to grafitti on walls, others shoplift once or twice, some spew edgy opinions, others refuses to listen to authority figures etc etc. But at some point most people grow out of it and settle into the world and become more mature.

      Some people, however, feel the need to go further than others and poke the bear extra hard. Sometimes they wake up after a slap, other times they don’t, because they never mature enough to settle in to society. They keep being “rebels” to provoke a reaction because it gives them a thrill. Makes them feel somehow important or different and thus better than the rest of us.

      It’s a very sad way to live and some people get stuck living like that and never grow out of it. Hopefully, this Anon will mature eventually and forever cringe when he looks back at this period of his life. But his autism has nothing to do with this behavior he is displaying. It’s just a way for him to not hold himself accountable for his bad behavior, as people like him are apt to do.

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      There’s no level of autism that can get you to think that talking about molesting baby Hitler would be a good idea, especially with a girl that anon is presumably trying to impress. There’s a reason that anon is on 4chan, and it’s not just autism.

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    Honestly, pretty sure not even autism causes a question like that to surface…

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    Well, knowing who was really behind 4chan, this is not surprising.

    It left a generation of…waste, for us to deal with.

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    While in many ways it’s genuinely hard to navigate neurotypical society with all its prejudice, it’s also actually relatively easy to just not go there

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      it’s also actually relatively easy to just not go there

      Into neurotypical society or broaching baby molestation? Because I’d have a harder time avoiding one than the other, but I won’t judge my experiences as the only correct ones.

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    Huh. I can’t come up with a reason for why molesting baby Hitler feels so much more wrong than killing baby Hitler. You could even make the argument that it’s less wrong.

    Is it just because of how killing and death is so normalized in all of modern media?

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      One act is inherently sadistic, the other isn’t. It’s very simple.

      I’m still a big fan of the scenario where you take baby Hitler and give him a lovely childhood and set him on a positive path instead the path he ended up on. I sometimes wonder what would have happened if Putin had had and safe and loving childhood as well. The shit he went through in his formative years are directly tied to the creature we are all witnessing and suffering from today.

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      Society disensitises us to the idea of killing bad people, all the movies and TV you watch and games you play will have you kill someone because they’re an enemy or a bad person. No media justifies the idea of molesting someone because they’re a bad guy.

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        No media justifies the idea of molesting someone because they’re a bad guy.

        I think One Punch Man has done that as a joke with the character Puri Puri Prisoner being both a high ranking hero and going to prison for raping me .

        That being said, one example doesn’t mean it’s common, just that you need to rephrase your last sentence to “almost no media”

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      Typical people deal with rape, murder is far rarer so there’s less “reality” to it. Go to a war torn country and you’d get a different response. Possivly “who is hitler?”

      But, more specifically, the kill baby Hitler question already exists in the social ether to be finished through call and respond. Branching into molestation requires recontextualization which pulls us into reality. It’s no longer call and respond, and you’ve just asked someone if they’d molest a baby.

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        See for me I don’t think killing babies is any more or less appropriate. They are both horrifying questions that I can’t understand anyone not being able to say “no” to either question.

        If youre back in time you could just work to not create a genocidal piece of shit. Also, this presumes that he was the only problem - there were many other horrible people involved, so there would likely just be another to take his place anyway.

        Both questions are just off the charts level wrong to me and worth reporting. Though I bet there were plenty of other things said in the chat which would have also fit this ban message.

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      Frankly, I don’t see how killing baby Hitler is not… extremely obviously morally superior to molesting baby Hitler.

      You can kill anybody nearly instantly.

      ‘Molestation’ implies… over a signifcant amount of time.

      It also implies that this is done in lieu of directly killing baby Hitler.

      So you’ve now generated an even more fucked up Hitler.

      Who will… regardless of how their time travel affrcted lifepath plays out… well they’ll have been molested. As a core memory.

      That… seems to me to be less moral, causes more Hitler-suffering, unnecessarily.

      You’ve minimized total suffering, via killing baby Hitler.


      … this is all assuming that just… doing either of these things somehow results in Hitler not coming to power, WW2 doesn’t happen, holocaust doesn’t happen.

      Frankly I also do not see anything near a guaranteed causality to ‘molesting baby Hitler’ -> ‘somehow WW2 does not happen’.

      Whereas it is at least semi-plausible that killing baby Hitler at least could result in ww2/holocaust not happening… I guess the … Strasserists just stay in control of the Nazis? And do not have a strangely charismatic firebrand to massively expand the movement?

      So it also just seems very impractical, unlikely that molesting baby Hitler would achieve the presumably desired aim.

      And it also assumes that these are your only two possible actions.

      Of course the entire thing is ludicrous is the sense of hinging on perfect foreknowledge, and time travel, which is fundamentally paradoxical, and/or results quantum suicide/immortality type nonsense, and/or in the Red Alert timeline.

      Oh god, and we essentially have to assume that this will be the only possible instance of time travel that ever happens, otherwise we potentially get into a kind of battling time travellers scenario ala whatever the fuck the Terminator series is doing now, and/or just a reality where many people can do time travel.


      Why not just do… teleportation, and either kill or molest Trump or Netanyahu, right now?

      I think I’d again conclude that telefragging them would be morally superior.

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        See this one 4chan creep there is why all those time travelers are shooting everyone who goes to see baby Hitler. We could have just killed baby Hitler in peace with Marx but someone had to and ruin things. Was this SCHOPENHAUER? IT WAS YOU WASN’T YOU SCHOPENHAUER ADMIT IT

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          I may not properly understand quantum immortality but I suppose it is technically ‘possible’ that I might be schopenhauer, in some sense, so… uh … yes, maybe?

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            Godsdammit somebody lend us the time machine so we can go back in time and babymurderkill the craven, dastardly individual who dared commit the worst sin imaginable: being the original Schopenhauer.

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      I think a lot of people tend to externalize the consequences of murder as simply a matter of course. Like, a lot of people don’t think of themselves as murderers, but do think that if push comes to shove, or if shit hits the fan, or if worse comes to worst, they’d be able to dig deep and find the strength within themselves to “do what needs to be done” and “protect their family” or whatever.

      In this sense, murder is just “work.” It’s a means to an end, if an extreme one.

      But, basically no one feels this way about molestation. I mean, how could you? There’s no obvious connection between action and effect; the prompt says there is, but you just have to take that on faith. It’s probably easier to just commit the murder, anyway, which means there’s a degree of “indulgence” inherent to this that makes it feel much more gross. Plus, most people know this intuitively: we fix problems either by stopping them (murder, prison) or repairing them (therapy, support, love), and molestation is neither of those. Intuitively, it seems like the molestation would make things worse, actually.

      So, in a rule-utilitarianism sense, I think people feel that murder is horrible, but permissible. Molestation is just horrible.

      Also, regarding all of the above points, there’s a virtue ethics angle to what each of those options might say about what kind of person you are, even if they both yielded the same outcome.

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      To be fair, he was innocent as a baby obviously.

      But much easier to imagine woodchipping him than well, the fucked up shit anon spouted.

      Maybe we are all different kinds of sick?

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        Just to go on a tangent (your comment just feels the closest to this particular topic), Hitler was actually a product of incest. His dad/uncle had a habit of raping “marrying” underage girls, including nieces.

        Also, there’s plenty of records of Hitler being fucked up as a kid, even before WW1. By that point he was particularly anti-semitic, even by the standard of early 1900’s Germany. He was also effectively “that kid” that was in everyone’s high school that wrote fanfic where they go on a rape/murder spree.

        Tbh, Hitler had 0 chance of growing up as a normal, well-adjusted person.

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          time traveling assassins got the wrong guy, don’t kill hitler…kill alexander the great

          no Alexander and there’s no roman empire, no roman empire mean catholicism dies a sweat short death, europe being spared all the inbred romaboos that followed the HRE’s collapse

          also, presumably we would all be speaking mongolian instead of english?