Record number of Americans are leaving the country and renouncing citizenship: report
www.independent.co.uk
In the aggregate, as many as 295,000 more people may have left the U.S. than immigrated there in 2025, according to one study
  • quick_snail@feddit.nlEnglish
    5·
    1 hour ago

    pegged the outflow at around 150,000 people in 2025.

    Before 2009, a typical year saw 200 to 400 people renounce their citizenship. By 2025, that figure was nearing 5,000, with more renunciations expected this year because fees to do so have dropped steeply.

    Wut. Everything else I’ve read said the fees to expatriate are enormous. Both a percent of net worth and fixed fees.

    anyone have more info on these fees “dropping steeply”?

  • rose56@lemmy.zipEnglish
    6·
    5 hours ago

    Like the rest of the world want’s them. So first you do nothing about your dead country, and you immigrate in another country.
    Like WW2 people fleeing Europe, same with USA now.

    • quick_snail@feddit.nlEnglish
      15·
      4 hours ago

      My Jewish family fled Europe during the pogroms of Russia.

      Their family that stayed died in the camps. Fuck you.

      The rest of the world has an obligation to accept refuges and use international pressure against other States that commit war crimes and crimes against humanity.

      • rose56@lemmy.zipEnglish
        3·
        3 hours ago

        I didn’t say anything about Jewish people, I don’t understand how I did offend you. Have a nice day!

        • samus12345@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          8·
          3 hours ago

          Like WW2 people fleeing Europe

          You seriously didn’t consider that Jews comprised most of this group? Regardless, blaming refugees for their authoritarian government is super fucked up. You know that more people than live in most European counties voted AGAINST the Trump regime, right?

  • favoredponcho@lemmy.zipEnglish
    21·
    11 hours ago

    Never in my life had I considered leaving the US, but last year my wife and I started on our back up plans. We’ve now got irons in the fire elsewhere. If Republicans don’t lose power in the next two years, we will be gone. And, with the US’s global taxation regime, we may have to renounce our citizenship too. The nice thing is you can renounce and still claim your social security in retirement.

    • teslekova@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      11·
      5 hours ago

      You should plan for the possibility that last part won’t be true for long. If these thieves in power stick around, they will drain every piece of money they can back into their own hands.

      • favoredponcho@lemmy.zipEnglish
        4·
        3 hours ago

        Repeating conservative talking points are we? Doing their job for them?

        Edit: you can downvote me but that doesn’t change the fact that you are actually falling for it. Convincing younger generations that social security won’t be there for them is actually a conservative political strategy and part of weakening support for the program and making people pre-accept efforts to kill it. But, here you are downvoting the guy telling you about it instead of the ones spreading conservative talking points.

        Stop fucking spreading conservative talking points. It doesn’t make you sound “very smart” or politically-attuned like you think it does. You’re just giving away your power and playing in to the conservative con of making you accept that them taking away your benefits is a forgone conclusion. It’s not. You are owed social security because you paid for it. It’s not a hand out and you shouldn’t live your life expecting or accepting that conservatives are going to take it away from you.

        Unfortunately, the conservative propaganda has been partially working. Young people still may support the Social Security program, but their confidence in it has been undermined by the ‘gloom and doom’ scenario that the right promulgates.  As our President and CEO Max Richtman points out, some younger adults believe they are more likely to see a U.F.O. or Bigfoot than to receive a Social Security check when they retire.

        In fact, younger adults are already covered by Social Security, though they may not realize it. For example, a 27 year-old with a spouse and two children has some $2 million worth of life and disability insurance from Social Security.  The perpetrators of the ‘generational divide’ propaganda never seem to mention that. Nor do they mention that the average Millennial is on track to receive about $1 million in lifetime benefits.

        https://www.ncpssm.org/entitledtoknow/ny-times-op-ed-attempts-to-divide-the-generations-to-undermine-social-security-medicare/

        https://www.ncpssm.org/documents/2024-opeds-and-letters/7-myths-that-undermine-social-security/

  • DandomRude@piefed.socialEnglish
    9·
    11 hours ago

    Now it all makes sense: So the wall that orange Fuck wanted on the border with Mexico was meant to keep all the Americans inside, just like the Berlin Wall used to do between East Germany and West Germany.

    • ramble81@lemmy.zipEnglish
      1·
      2 hours ago

      Remember the Berlin Wall was more to keep people in, than the keep the west out.

      • DandomRude@piefed.socialEnglish
        3·
        1 hour ago

        Yes, that’s the point of my comment, albeit a joking one: The absurd wall that the orange pedo built can now serve the same purpose: keeping U.S. citizens trapped in the hellhole that the U.S. has become.

  • ORbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    8·
    12 hours ago

    Rubio wants to shut down all of the Mexican consulates because of the CIA agent incident. It doesn’t even make sense.

    I’m mid-application for moving down there.