Hi,

I want to gather some opinions on @daily_fourmula@lemmy.ml. It’s a bot posting math dailygames every day. I checked the last 14 days. Nobody commented on the bots’ posts, it barely receives any reactions at all.

I think the bot should stop posting games. I prefer active games over a bunch of automated empty threads. Quality over quantity.

Small problem though, I don’t even know who runs the bot. Banning it should be the absolute last resort. I’ve written a DM to the bot, waiting for an answer.

What do you think about the bot?

    • allywilson@lemmy.ml
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      4 days ago

      Is it because I use the same theme that you think they’re all very similar? Like, they are all maths-based, but they are different.

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        4 days ago

        It’s not the visuals, I think the visuals are nice and keeping visual consistency is good branding.

        Please understand I mean no disrespect by this, but for me these are four questions on a math quiz, not four separate games. Each is a single step equation in a slightly different arrangement, with each having only a single binary outcome, taking me only a handful of seconds to complete. Perhaps it’s because I do various equations in my head in my work that I don’t get much of a challenge from doing these, and as a result I don’t perceive much variety or novelty. That just makes me the wrong audience.

        But, the result of having separate posts for each of them everyday is that other games end up being crowded out, even if they’re bundling more content inside the game itself. That doesn’t seem fair.

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          4 days ago

          I think I struggle to understand a little. Like, if Wordle is posted every day, we’re happy, but if Wordle and Connections is posted by NY Times every day we don’t think they should?

          I’m not having a dig, I’m just trying to understand.

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            4 days ago

            It would make sense to me to combine wordle and connections in one post to be consistent, it’s easier to divide by author or vendor rather than similarity. I wouldn’t want someone to start posting something like nerdle individually either, which appears to have 22 separate games now. And I wouldn’t want one author to be given special treatment.

            But this is only my opinion, I’m not the entire community. I’m not even someone who does the sharing results part of this community.

            • squirrel@cake.kobel.fyiOPM
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              3 days ago

              It would make sense to me to combine wordle and connections in one post to be consistent

              That would mix up the results of two different games in one thread and look very messy.

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                10 hours ago

                I don’t actually think it’d be a good idea, but you could do it by having multiple top-level contents representing each game and ask that people post their replies to that game under its respective comment.

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    5 days ago

    Sooo, I am the owner of the bot. It only posts to that 1 community, and it’s where most of the traffic the games get comes from.

    The games themselves don’t really lean towards sharing your results, it’s more about checking yesterdays solutions to see how you did, so the comments would naturally be fairly low.

    i was merely following the other daily posts and decided to automate it rather than do it manually every day.

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      5 days ago

      Hi, nice to know a username behind the bot. At some point I thought someone set it up and just forgot about it. A couple thoughts:

      It only posts to that 1 community, and it’s where most of the traffic the games get comes from.

      I wonder why noone at least upvotes the posts then. Is it all lurkers who play?

      The games themselves don’t really lean towards sharing your results

      Hmm… I prefer games in this community where results are easily shareable. I’ve refrained from posting games myself where it was hard or impossible to share results.

      This is just my own opinion and how I like to play dailygames. I don’t want to prohibit your games. I prefer not to moderate this community heavily or dictate my playstyle on others. If there’s no majority of users who are bothered by the daily bot posts, you don’t need to change anything.

      I’ve read that you intend to spruce up the posts a little. That’s a step in the right direction I think. And maybe you could space them out a little, so they don’t appear as this one pile of math games every day.

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        5 days ago

        Thank you for this.

        I’ve got my thinking cap on.

        Maybe allowing people to post their previous days result? Or maybe, a stopwatch counter (so you can post how quickly you did a puzzle)? Because they’re maths based it tends to be a single yes or no, rather than a continuous attempt at finding the answer.

        I wonder, if I post every day, but if you use your lemmy username as your name on the game, I’ll include you in the post and your solution for the puzzle from the previous day (you can view yesterdays solutions on the puzzle itself)?

        If it’s still not engaging with the above (hopefully I’ll find time this weekend to update), then I could stop the posts/combine them/lower it to weekly or similar.

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          4 days ago

          okie dokie @squirrel@cake.kobel.fyi @Deadlytosty@lemmy.world

          Does this look better?

          https://lemmy.ml/post/47085717

          If you use your Lemmy username it should @ you the next day as well.

          Thoughts? (also, @'ing in Lemmy is not how I thought it would work).

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            4 days ago

            Very nice. The Lemmy integration is neat. Looking forward to getting a ping from the bot tomorrow.

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              4 days ago

              I hope it works as expected, difficult to test without a test Lemmy instance.

              Hopefully it introduces a level of discussion, I actually quite like looking at the way people get to the same answer via different means.

              I should be able to introduce this for the other puzzles, I guess the timing is still a question though - like, it rotates at 00:00 UTC, so I try to stagger the submissions with an hour plus 13 mins, or 17 mins, etc. but I think that will still appear as a “block” of submissions for people coming online in Europe and NA.

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                3 days ago

                It didn’t work, but I think it’s because I’ve saved my username only after I played. With the form being below the game I thought I could do it afterwards. I could test again, but lack the math skills to solve todays AddDown :) will try again later

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                  3 days ago

                  Yeah, the username is submitted when a successful answer is put in. I’ll leave it like this for a couple of days, see if it gets a bit more engagement if that’s Ok.

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    5 days ago

    My preference would be to have fewer, but more active games. The ones from the bot you mention I always just scroll past and provide a lot of clutter, while also not being inviting as it is just a link and title, no images about what the game could entail. So I wouldn’t miss it.

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      5 days ago

      I’m happy to spruce up the posts a bit, I just wanted to get the games visible so did the bare minimum in marketing I guess.

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        5 days ago

        Understandable. I think it would help, if it isbt too much of an ask. The thumbnails made me try several games I never heard of or tried before, so it definitely wouldnt hurt. And thanks for your addition to the lemmyverse :)