And their vote counts more than yours because they live in rural districts with lower populations. Smh at “democracy.”

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      You just need to find a long term storage solution that is safe (and cheap) for the next 100.000+ years. That‘s longer than the modern history of humans. At our current trajectory this period will contain hundreds of world wars, none of the current nations will exist and we will have technology far beyond our comprehension. I am also totally neglecting all the companies making the profits today will be gone. Funnily enough many nuclear disposal site are built close to borders, which shows the short sightedness of the designer. Also also the resources for nuclear energy are finite, same as with coal. So we can may be use the technology for couple hundred years at best, but have to deal with the waste way longer.

      I am not against new nuclear power plant projects, but please think about disposal first, let companies pay for it today and then think about building the actual plant.

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      Memes like these make progressives look like dumbasses.

      Look at all that water vapor polluting the air! Omg

      • Sincerely, a progressive
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        Would like to live next to a plant like that?

        It’s not about the vapor but about the land it’s occupying. It also looks ugly like shit. People will complain bout wind farms destroying the landscape but huge chimneys don’t bother them for some reason.

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          I used to live within a certain radius of one, our local school used to stock iodine pills in case of an emergency. Luckily I’m Canadian and we have one of the best nuclear track records full stop so it was never a worry.

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          Honestly? Yeah. Well if I didn’t already have my house fully off grid.

          Being in proximity to a nuclear power source would help ensure minimal power outages compared to fossil fuels.

          So if I had to choose? Yes. However, I took things into my own hands and have a 36kW solar system with 100kWh battery bank powering my property.

          YMMV

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            Aren’t those plants noisy? It’s a industrial installation. Don’t you have constant traffic and noise there? Where I live we don’t have nuclear power plants so I don’t know. We have this type of plants:

            I would definitely prefer solar or wind farms.

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          Am example of what you’re saying is Michigan City, Indiana. It’s actually a pretty nice little tourist town. I go every year for the Great Lakes Grand Prix. It’s just an excuse to go to the beach and drink some beverages. It has a decent beach (very nice by Great Lakes standards), dunes, a zoo, and a coal and natural gas plant right on the water front… It’s such a cool place as long as you don’t look in the one direction and see that huge eye sore right next to the beach.

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            I don’t know about you, but I’d be admiring it, thinking of how incredible the amount of clean energy coming from it relative to its tiny waste output is. I wish we had way more nuclear power.

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            We had a coal plant near where I live that’s along the riverfront. Thankfully the government here saw sense and tore the whole thing down and replaced it with the largest solar farm in Canada.

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          i don’t like nuclear, mostly because of how it creates this highly dangerous waste, that our ancestors will still have trouble with (and thinking about it, is probably mined in a similarly destructive way to coal?), but i got to say that nuclear power plants actually lool fine to me and their vapour is actually quite pretty and scenic imo. ofc i would not want it everywhere, but its fine. i would not base my opinion of nuclear on that.

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            You mean ancestors *descendants. Also, rest assured! That’s not a fear to have: https://www.anl.gov/article/10-myths-about-nuclear-energy

            Myth # 5: There is no solution for huge amounts of nuclear waste being generated.

            Truth: All of the used nuclear fuel generated in every nuclear plant in the past 50 years would fill a football field to a depth of less than 10 yards, and 96 % of this ​“waste” can be recycled [5]. Used fuel is currently being safely stored. The U.S. National Academy of Sciences and the equivalent scientific advisory panels in every major country support geological disposal of such wastes as the preferred safe method for their ultimate disposal[6].

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      Coal and natural gas plants can also use the same cooling tower design.

      It looks like maybe a coal plant is depicted, on account of the tall smoke stacks and what look like drop chutes for handling solid coal. But the layout doesn’t make sense. What are the smoke stacks coming out of?

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        It looks either AI, or a combination of pictures via Photoshop. I’m guessing AI, but hard to know for sure.

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              Yeah, and? Most crops need more than just a few hours per day of sunlight. Those panels are HUGE. Way bigger than the shadow we’re seeing.

              But more to the point, what are they even growing there? It looks like ivy that turns into some indistinct shrub, and then there are flower bushes behind that? Also those panels look like they’re about 20-30cm thick when you compare them to the people vaguely “harvesting” the crops. And I’m pretty sure those posts holding them up are basically railroad rails with no support on the back of the panels.

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                    I think many staple crops are often more prone to drought issues than not getting enough sunlight. Many crops can thrive pretty well with only 4-5 hours of direct sunlight and for the rest of the day just enough general brightness. A bit less direct sunlight can help reduce water usage.

                    Evolution is going towards semi-transparant solar panels (solar windows) for various use cases, agrivoltaics among them.

                    It’s also not unfeasible to have a herd of sheep or goats roaming around solar panels.

                    Tho it’s true it’s a challenge to successfully combine large scale solar and agriculture, I think the future ahead is looking very bright for this combo. Around here (south Germany) it is by now very uncommon to see stables and warehouses without an enormous solar roof, for example…

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      Smoke stacks aren’t specific to nuclear - it’s specific to large boiler plants I think.