cross-posted from : https://lemmy.zip/post/63262827
Chanting ‘from the river to the sea’ would be criminalised under proposed state law
cross-posted from : https://lemmy.zip/post/63262827
Chanting ‘from the river to the sea’ would be criminalised under proposed state law
My balanced take:
Israel has a right to exist in it’s original borders. So has Palatine. Israeli genocide by their political elite must be stopped. We need a blue helmet peace mission to separate both groups back into their homes and rebuild. They need long term help to get off their religious bullshit and learn to be good neighbors.
Having a law criminalizing a radical opinion is not in the interest of free speech and should have no place in Germany nor any place. You have the right to be stupid, I draw the line at violence. As should the law.
Words incite violence. Every genocide starts with rethoric. We have t8 curtail speech. Everything else is 18th century naivité.
Discussion is healthy and being able to speak to people about their opinion is the only way to potentially change it. That’s hard to do it their opinion is illegal. Which is why freedom of speech is so important.
You are speaking about fighting propaganda, which is another thing entirely.
That’s a naive take. The right to life, health and a peace for million of people is paramount to some hateful bigots right to free speech.
Human rights can conflict with eachother. We have to make a choice.
I’ll make an example you might understand: I’ll block you now, see how you feel not being able to spill your fascist tea. ;)
Thank you for not wasting my time.
What “original” borders? The borders they established in 1948 by ethnically cleansing Palestinian land? The historical borders of Judea and Samaria? If so which ones? Are we going to rely on the historiagraphy of Israelis who determined those historical borders too? Why should we legitimize an explicitly settler colonial project who has only caused problems for an entire region since its inception? What even gives a state the “right to exist”.
I agree that we need an organized international intervention but we should also seriously investigate the purpose of Israel. Who benefits from its continue existence and why is incredibly important to determining what to do going forward. I am of the opinion that a two state solution only leaves us where we were a few decades ago. It allows the settlers to bide their time.
States don’t have rights people have rights.
I tend to agree on a technicality. But the state is formed and represented by its it’s people. Therefore there is a right to exist that’s derived from the peoples right to exist as well as a right to defend themselves that derives from it’s peoples right to safety. Let’s just say Israel has gone somewhat overboard and the US is somewhat stoking that fire for religious and political reasons and that needs to stop.
Lebensraum.
No it doesn’t.
I have a feeling Germany isn’t gonna approve of that one either. Especially since that’s where the nukes are.
They have unequivocally proberen that they cannot live in the middle east without starting shit. Maybe the Madagascar plan wasn’t too bad an idea?