• coolie4@lemmy.world
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    This post starts with propaganda framed as a question, and reinforced with comments containing assumptions and anecdotes. I checked several sources and none of them place America even in the top 50 murder rate, out of 195 countries.

    If instead you’re referring to “America” as both the northern and southern continents, then that is incredibly misleading and disingenuous.

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      It’s still really high though at #65/205, and about three times as high as any countries with similar economic development.

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      The US doesn’t track high compared to literal warzones and the poorest of developing nations, which is not really a comparison you should need to make just in order for your country to look good. Compared to other rich developed nations the US tracks very high.

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      Yeah comparing it to the most destabilized parts of the world is also not very fair.

      Compared to Europe, China and Canada the US is a shitshow.

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      Like the other guy pointed out, no, compared to warzones and developing countries the US isn’t at the top of the list. But compared to supposedly developed countries, formerly so-called “first world countries”? If the US wishes to identify as one, then yeah, it’s kinda murdery in comparison.

      https://www.healthdata.org/news-events/insights-blog/acting-data/gun-violence-united-states-outlier

      Key takeaways:

      Age-adjusted firearm homicide rates in the US are 33 times greater than in Australia and 77 times greater than in Germany.
      
      
      Gun violence accounts for over 8% of deaths in the US among those under age 20.
      
      
      Age-adjusted rates of firearm homicide are highest in Washington, DC and lowest in New Hampshire.
      

      You don’t think it’s even remotely fair for someone from a country with >77 times less murder to call the US “a bit murdery”?

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      Not hard to see that the US is an outlier. Canada is its closest neighbor in proximity and similarity in culture. As of 2023, the U.S. recorded 5.7 gun homicides per 100,000 people, while Canada recorded 1.9 per 100,000. Three times the rate. Thats not propaganda.

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      we have significant more gun violence where gun control is prominent it works, you brought into the propaganda that low amounts of gun, or strong gun laws are worst off. the worst crimes is from stabbings mostly, or other forms of violence. we have a culture of using guns,. people literally obsessed about shooting other people often.